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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    one opened in north kerry a few weeks back at the Six Crosses on the Tralee Listowel road seems to be doing well so far… but again the test will be will it be doing well in a years time or 2 years time.. Behans Bainne Blasta is the name its going by.. they have had everyone from david clifford to martin heydon drinking mik from the machine to promote it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    I know this might sound like sacrilege here but for me, drinking there's no great good in drinking shop milk.

    Might as well be just drinking water and eating something tasty. That said, I'm not a fan of black tea either.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭50HX


    Its nice milk, they have another outlet in Ardfert.

    The milkshakes are a real money spinner.

    They have a different model v previous attempts.

    You go to the dispenser rather than farmer delivering to shops.

    The latter model has failed on 2 occasions in the past...even during covid one of them was doing house deliveries & went wallop.

    There is another pasteurised not homogenised producer setting up in north kerry doing deliveries to shops.

    Will be interesting to see which ones lasts longer...I suspect Behans



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Who has the time to drive somewhere just to get milk.like organics in general these direct milk sellers are not selling a product they are selling a" feeling" to make people feel more superior than ordinary mortals that arent as smart as them buying their food in a shop



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,308 ✭✭✭50HX


    In Behans case both locations are on site of 24hr fuel,shop with deli & seating area plus its the main road to Tralee.

    In ardfert the footfall into that Centra shop is colossal with the added bonus of being beside a school.

    The product they are selling is not in your aldi/lidl stores.

    The disposable income (& how younger generation spend) thats there now is on a different scale to previous generations.

    A steady % of that market & you have a viable enterprise.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Danny healy ray


    there is one of them milk pasteuriser glass bottle despenser up on dd at the moment up around the meath area 70000 all in I think there at it a couple of years a costly education I'd say



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Nobody, its a novelty purchase at the start. Thats why the cafe is the next step once you get people around the place. The milk alone isn't enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Have to say i love drinking milk. Id have a couple of glasses every day. Much prefer the Avonmore stuff to shops own. If it wasn't too awkward to take it out of the tank id be drinking my own milk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,714 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    3-4 l drank here every day between us all. I have about 2 pints a day myself alone. Chaps have a glass infront of them nearly all the time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,381 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    There's A place near us Wholey cow, was mental busy at the start, opened around covid times. There's a coffee shop there now too. I've never been but daughter has gone a few times. You can see the cows being milked and feed the calves too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    have you a link to that??

    there is a family with a vending machine for milk in meath.. McGranes Milk Barn they are at it a few years the vending machine is right beside the farmyard… seems to be going well for them…

    Behans machine at the six crosses is near enough to their farm so not too far to travel to fill it up… Ardfert though is a nice spin... as said above the shop in ardfert is a very busy shop.. serious amount of traffic passing 7days a week.. anyway best of luck to them with it… Aodan is a nice fella..



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Can someone explain how ConceptDairy can lock in milk price for farmers?

    https://x.com/conceptdairy/status/1993039407369404785?s=46



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Danny healy ray


    https://www.donedeal.ie/farmersmarket-for-sale/pasteurised-milk-vending-business/39813544?utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=listing_share&utm_source=copy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    I assume by selling futures contracts, seems a bit shady considering there isn't a liquid futures market in Europe and not a 1 for 1 correlation on what processors pay in Ireland.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,742 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Thanks.

    I guess the devil would be in the detail. How many cpl would you risk losing for stability over the next 2 years?

    Maybe it’s like fixing the interest rate on a mortgage for the first few years to give yourself a bit of certainty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Shop milk or your own.

    The lads here wont drink shop milk, "a crime against nature" they call it!

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    .....

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Except in organics they're getting better quality food and environment, so the "feeling" is well founded.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    the lady with that add up is Alison Beattie.. she runs the FarmWardrobe clothing business in westmeath… id be guessing she is now selling vending machines too…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Contract for difference is the most likely way. But they need someone to take an opposite position to balance risk. Can't see any reason why anyone in the food industry would have much interest in taking that on when they can just do deals between themselves anyway



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Danny healy ray


    that's her own vending machine business lad that she is sell up as far as I know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    LLooking At the Facebook page for delasheen farms which is the name on the vending machine in the Ad.. it is updated regularly and only yesterday she had up that she has a new flavour introduced... she certainly doesn't appear to be selling up... my guess is she is an agent for that brand of vending machine in Ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭older by the day


    It's 70k plus vat, you probably would want to register for vat to get that off.

    You would want to be an organised, hard worker to make that business pay. And the way the world is now, would it not get broken in too



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