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Beef price tracker 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭Robson99


    There is no obsession. I'm just stating what I am seeing. € 7.50 is as good as what I can get. There are some on here that wouldnt be happy with € 10/kg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭grass10


    Last week grid was 7.60 approx yet if you look at the rag tonight you will see large numbers of even o grade steers and heifers were paid out over 8 euro that's the real paid prices, this week under 30 steers and heifers stores are after going up rapidly in price in some marts i suspect for feb/March finish the numbers are not there no matter how much spin is being put out by all media outlets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭epfff


    Can someone that can offer this over 8 euro please contact me.

    Have cattle will travel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭Robson99


    The only figures printed that i believe to be true in the rag is the date and the price of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,268 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    At 7.6 base and O= grading AA are at 7.82 with a 20c AA bonus. Larger local suppliers were getting 8 flat locally last week, they are on the grid at 7.6 this week.

    Add to that AIBP and Kepak you have there early slaughter bonuses for certain spec cattle which is another 20c/kg even if the base 7.5 an O= is 7.92. Add as well some contracted cattle being killed well in excess of 8/kg. Rumours is some contracts given out in September were up towards 9/ kg

    Very hard at present to get a Fr to grade O most gone back into P grade. When all.us said and done all that is immaterial to tge average small supplier it 7.4/ kg take it or leave it.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭kk.man


    That's very true with contracted cattle and they piled those contractors up, it was almost like writing a blank cheque for them.

    Impossible now to get a Friesian into an O grade except when you go flat and all of a sudden they magically appear.

    In essence small operators are filling the barons pockets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭HHH


    The grid is an absolute scam. Any time I sell at flat rates I'm shocked at the grades Vs when on the grid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭grass10


    When the rag is published next week I suspect we'll still see lots of o grades avg payment still at 8 or above imo large numbers of factory owned cattle being processed which were purchased in September they are only operating 3/4 days as the cattle are not there, I suspect they are only getting small numbers at official grid quotes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,268 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The Rag only show selected FS ususll 3+ and 2+.

    3+ woukd have a lot of the well finished feedlot cattle. 2+ would be a mixture off flat rate and mart purchased cattle.

    The average base guides show a lot of factories averaging base of 7.6 for steers and 7.7 for heifers. If you allow for AA,HE, ABP advantage and Kepak twenty20 club.

    You woukd want to download the DFAM official price and drill through it.

    Forget about what contracted cattle get we will never access those prices, larger regular suppliers will be 10-30c/kg ahead of us depending on how often they supply and if they can be depended on to have a double at short notice if procurement agent is stuck for cattle.

    Christmas kill will be slowing from next week on. Processors have not eaten into contracted cattle yet. They ate happy with a kill of over 30ka d it will stay at or above that for a while

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Any quotes for next week?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭epfff


    Traveling for 750



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Back4more


    You must be one of the soft sellers we hear so much about !!

    Local lad got 7.90 flat for aa heifers booked in for next week in the south .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭epfff


    Can you give me contact number for processor or get agent to call me. No processor local wants cattle ATM.

    Have cattle will travel.

    790 for aax is 750 if they good graders if they are great graders it's your buddy that's the soft seller I don't think a lot here understand pricing bonuses etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭Robson99


    I think it's your buddy that sold softly considering he should have also gotten aa bonus.

    I kill 40 or so cattle a year...usually in 2s or 3s. I take what the best price I can get and kill when they are fit. I don't go around like Johnny big balls thinking I can hold the factories to ransom with my few cattle. Soft you call me...realist I like to call myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Back4more


    It is hard to figure ye out here where ye are been quoted at best 7.50 base ,complain about grades and ye think some body who got 7.90 flat should have gotten more,the mind boggles .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭epfff


    750 +20qa+30aa=8

    I can't get any processor to take cattle.

    They are telling me they paying from 730-750 base but call end of week and we will see about next week. All only killing 4 days claiming no market for extra cattle.

    If any agent reading and wants a load of cattle message me. Have cattle will travel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Can't see any agent ringing looking for cattle currently, they have enough coming on stream, you'll have to ring yourself further afield.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,268 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    HHow Big was the load were they suckler bred or good bucket fed under or over 30 months. Is in in advantage or ternty20 club.

    Local suppliers that sells 300+ cattle a year would have a load going every second week ish normally was put back.on the grid last week. He was getting 8 flat last week was on 8.6 base next week 7.5 base and 7.4 Monday week. He had a load last week trying to get two loads in next week if he can. After that he can wait it out until after Christmas although he thinks its not going to improve for a while.

    The only way can ordinary supplier is getting 7.9 flat is if they are under 30 months, O+/R grade AA and will qualify for one of the schemes above. Locally AA bones back to 15c/ kg fir AA unless booked in for the higher bonus and that ends this week I think.

    A month ago I got 10c/ kg HE bonus on a heifers with 5 moves. Last week a lad did not get it with a few heifers that he got QA on over 30 months as they had plenty of under age ones.

    By the way there is a story in next week's FI, a finisher in Waterford gone bust, Cork marts owed 351K.

    https://m.independent.ie/farming/news/waterford-firm-facing-351000-debt-to-cork-marts-enters-provisional-liquidation/a1165263784.html

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    youd be sick of listening to the uncle toms on here

    2 lads killing less than 100 between them are guarding/policing this thread

    english price is creeping up but sterling is headed the other direction



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Policing the thread...grow up.

    I'll give you the number of the 3 nearest factories to me

    Give them a ring Mr Mitty, tell them to **** off with what they quote you and then decide which of the 3 you go back to next week with you tail between you legs and 10 cent less

    BTW out of interest how many do you kill a year ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,268 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    I killed slightly over 90 this year is @Robson99 killing less than 10.....at a guess he is over 100.

    I am calling it as I see it. There was a time when I looked at the Journal prices and taught Icoukd win against the processors by holding. But a good few years ago I started going with the flow, learned to kill cattle at certain times of year and take my margin and replace. I sell when most lads are holding and replace when there is value in the market. I have learned that most year cattle that looked expensive in May, July or August gain cheap weight before housing.

    Housed the CH heifers Friday I bought in May @320kgs for less than 1k that now are 450-550 kgs, one is above that I think. The circus is over for this year it time to take down the tent and hunker down until next May.

    You were holding on to cattle 3ish weeks ago, have you still got them, every week at the moment they are dropping 40-50 euro. When flat prices go it's always nearly a 100 euro hit per head.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    im glad the two lads identified themselves anyway

    flat prices dont effect my few



  • Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    i dont claim to be anything other than what i am

    a humble suckler to beef man

    hanging numbers are smaller than ever

    most of them hit for the boat this year and the heifers we didnt keep are replacements for someone else

    its been quite the year



  • Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    you killed 90 on what length of keep

    were you not saying you hold them for 18 months?

    dare i say your favorite word



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭nearlybreak


    Typical of farmers to be fighting at the end of the day lads demand for beef is at an all time high and factories pulling price is just a ploy and at d mo they are getting away with it but everything indicates that it will go the other way but it’s up to every farmer to do their own thing but I’m holding out to the bitter end this time because these quotes of 7.40/50 are ridiculous in my eyes and do what you want after that but factories need to cop on otherwise it will come back to haunt them and that I know for fact we are in unprecedented times and they need every beast they can get



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭Robson99


    I'm guessing you have to replace when you decide to kill these. It's the replacement cost that will put profit in you pocket. Stores are back at least 25 cent a kg the past 2 / 3 weeks. My decision was to kill ( they were fit for killing ) and replace while the stores were back. If I held on for another 4 weeks replacement cattle would not be there. I would then have to buy cattle at end Jan / Feb 40 - 50 kgs more than the relacements I have bought probably costing me 200 - 240 a head more than what I have bought at. Penny wise pound foolish imo

    What price per kg is the bitter end out of interest ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭nearlybreak




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭nearlybreak




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭nearlybreak


    good WHs and Angus still costing the same maybe weighing lighter alright and continentals aren’t back anything for the real one just lesser cattle going to Marts which cloud people’s judgement



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭Robson99


    No clouding my judgement. Contenintals stores are back in all marts in the West . And thats U Grade Contenintals. Don't know about Angus or WHs as I only buy Cont



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