Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

And who are the main creditors that get burnt. Banks will have security over a substantial part of long term borrowings either having leins on product or security on assets. Revenue is usually a secured creditor after banks and wages to staff. Staff have security for there wages and statutory redundancy.

The main creditors will be farmer suppliers be careful what you wish for.

Farmer goodwill is basically BS. If you go into examinership or liquidation you are on your bike especially if it happens at the wrong time of year. At present milk payments are low but if it happened in early summer time payments would stop but you would still be in hoc for your fertlizer if it was bought even on normal 30 day credit.

If it went it would go before a monthly payment which would mean all the previous month and 15-20 days of present month. Even if the plug was pulled at present and banks got caught this time they would not be caught next time. Borrowings woukd be much harder to get for co-ops long term.

The property value of any co-ops exceeds bank borriwings

But None of them can tell you the reason why they won't fit them. I suspect they are too much work and less profitable for them. I wouldn't take one of those basic parlours for free.

Build a pit big enough. Ours is 10 foot wide. Everyone thinks it's the best thing ever. Easy to clean and no rushing while milking here. It might add 5 mins. Not a big deal.

Each To their own but i always think it's strange how all the milking machine guys started ruling out jars overnight and can't give one valid reason why.

In fairness, I didn't realise the 46k was including stallwork, air gates, etc. We did all that work ourselves and just bought a new 12 unit machine. 30k would be loads for that bare machine imo. I wouldn't bother with the air gates if cash was tight.

Thats interesting, I think that milking either jars is a much lesser experience, but then again, I never really have. What's your substitute for management? ie knowing what any cow is milking, knowing when a cow is back in milk, seeing blood in milk etc.

I mean milk recording is very much after the fact and a single point in time, it might be 12 hours later before a sick cow is noticed.

Following a very successful client event in 2024 I will be running another one this year on the 4th of December from 2 to 5pm in Carlow and this year offering a limited number of spaces to anyone else who might be interested in attending, ideally farmers who may be interested in having me involved in their business next year.

Cost is €30pp.

I will be speaking on the impact of higher replacement rates on financials and organic nitrates, why are less than 50% of weaned replacements surviving to start their third lactation?

.…From Graise..... That's a shocking statistic about 50% of weaned replacements. Surely they are not being bred in the first place. I would say 90% + should get to the 3rd lactation here anyway.