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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    But you don't believe in international law?? What nonsense are you spouting now?!!! At least be consistent - you don't get to pick and chose when to follow it and when not to! It's like trying reason with a Burke here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Oh. My. God. I know you're meant to attack the post not the poster, but when something is as manifestly stupid as this, I don't even know where to begin.

    "Its ok, its ok, I've invaded a sovereign nation, raped their women, executed old men in the street, castrated POWs, kidnapped children, shelled schools and tried to freeze a civilian population to death in winter, so sue me, you're not allowed to confiscate my money".

    The absolute irony of you invoking the sanctity of the concept of "sovereign". It's a bit like wondering whether a clown is funny or stupid. I just don't know what angle you're going for here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    I know poster spouts hypocrisy every day and it's maddening at times, but behind it all is the real Russian govt. position.

    As said in other post, that is the letter of "international law" (as defined by ilk of Russia) should apply firmly to "little" countries like Ireland and the other EU members, but Russia (as a bent UN security council international policeman) can do whatever it likes, and abuse whoever it likes.

    Unfortunately, while Russia has I think a massively inflated sense of their own power, this cynical position does seem to be the one the 2 real superpowers (US/China) are both open about now, and the way they want the world run.

    Any effort at upholding the system such as it was from the US has ended sadly, possibly for good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    This looks more serious than first reported.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    All is well

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Obviously an attempt to disrupt supplies to Ukraine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The Russian courts unlike in the EU are not Independent. It's a dictatorship.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Apparently the main attack that Poland is focusing on happened near a village relatively close to the Ukrainian border, on a part of the line that is used to provide aid and supply to Ukraine.

    I wonder who could do this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,369 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Maybe the EU should stop agitating the Russians by building rail lines roughly 1000km away from their borders.

    **** European pricks…


    Also, the damage was done closer to Warsaw than it is to the Ukrainian border.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    Yes, that’s the usual deflection … Europe must do more. Of course, the West should do more. But, Ukraine needs to continue fighting against evil regardless. And nobody is saying anything is rosy, Russia is killing, raping and kidnapping kids. And yet UKRAINE HAS NO CHOICE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    When you realise Ukraine has to and will continue to fight, the rest is irrelevant.

    Of course the West doing more will help. There is no quick fix to defeating Russia. To think otherwise is delusional. But, I bet a West supported Ukraine will win out over Putin’s morally diseased Russia.

    And yes, Ukraine is hugely aiding the West.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Anna Magdalena on quora says that Orikhiv and Huliapole in the south are at risk of encirclement.

    The Daily Telegraph showed an area northeast of Huliapole where Russia advanced. They said it was during a troop rotation I think.

    Russian gains in this war have often happened during troop rotations.

    Bild journalist Julian Ropcke.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Russia who are severely aided by Russia/north Korea and many countries in the West or India who've been buying their oil. If Russia was on it's own it'd be defeated already.

    Not related to you but funny we're now at a stage where most pro Ukrainian followers are feeling very negative but a lot on the Russian side are equally negative. I guess following this war on the daily and wanting your side to have won already takes its toll.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Infini


    Honestly if they confirm it's Russian sabotage they should hit that Article 5 button, as risky as it is the Russian's would shít themselves if NATO engaged them directly because they would be in no shape to take everyone on and the truth is the Nuclear Option is a guaranteed suicide option for them knowing that everyone else wants them out of THEIR countries, not their country or their land, noone outside of Russia is going to come for their heads unless they do something catastrophically stupid. Honestly they likely wouldn't be trying sabotage at all if their Orange Felon hadn't gotten in, indecisiveness and weakness only allows the bastards to regroup and prolong this conflict.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,397 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Unfortunately Julian has been right for a long time now.

    This war will reach its fourth anniversary soon. The damage each side is doing to the other in terms of infrastructure, financial, militarily, and in basic human cost is not sustainable. It's a mathematical certainly that at some point one side or the other will eventually crack. It does not seem that the major European powers have accepted that this is now a very real possibility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Deletes



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    India have been the most two faced **** when it comes to this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trump threatening more sanctions against Russia's trading partners.

    Trump says Republicans drafting bill to sanction countries that trade with Russia | Reuters

    The Trump administration unlocked a negotiation channel for global energy giants to take over/buy Lukoil’s international assets, as Lukoil sought this grace period, as Reuters reports.

    That would be a more calibrated approach aimed at eliminating Russians from the outside-Russia production but preserving the oil output that the sanctioned Russian companies were producing, so the markets do not go through shudders and tremors.

    All the more that⚖️🛢️Lukoil’s assets in Bulgaria and Iraq are already in the process of being taking over.

    The new licenses the US Treasury rolled out allow talks with Lukoil over its foreign holdings (≈0.5% of world oil output) — but under strict conditions:

    Lukoil must lose full control

    - All proceeds go into a frozen escrow Lukoil can’t touch until sanctions are lifted

    Kyiv Mayor Vitali Klitschko has issued a stark warning — as per POLITICO — that Ukraine faces problems finding new troops as the war with Russia nears its fourth year — and more young men flee abroad. And in the contrast to Russian MO

    “Russian troops attack in waves — like a computer game — they just keep coming,” Klitschko said.

    Klitschko says that may have to change — suggesting the draft age could be lowered to 22 or 23 as manpower runs dangerously thin.

    “We’ve defended our country successfully for almost four years, but it’s difficult,” he said. “The courage to fight is still there — that matters greatly.”

    But he also knows courage isn’t enough without people. With millions of Ukrainians now living abroad, he says the real postwar challenge will be bringing them home.

    “We would be happy if half of the younger people come back,” Klitschko admitted. “But for that, we need peace, jobs, and a good quality of life.”

    Ukraine faces ‘huge problems’ finding soldiers as men flee abroad, says Kyiv mayor – POLITICO

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    China is worse and that's saying something! India have a big love in though with Russia for some reason. I guarantee you that'd be different if they shared a border with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭macraignil


    Reports that further plans are agreed to provide long term weapons support for Ukraine:

    https://apnews.com/article/france-ukraine-warplanes-rafale-1ac56c0377a9d40fd28462df1b1acd63

    Also something has mysteriously started to burn in the Omsk area of putin's terrorist state.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    I think the West really needs to up its game in counter-drone and electronic warfare technology. The drones are the future, just like the tank was in 1939.

    FT reporting wave of European defence IPOs. Hopefully a good sign.

    Reports on Russian oil being resold to Australia (also happens in the West) through India.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,448 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Good news being reported. Sounds like the unconditional ceasefire demands are instead moving towards peace negotiations now. Talks to take place in Istanbul with the mediators and then his terms for peace will be discussed with his European allies.

    Macron also mentioned yesterday that he was hopeful of peace deal next year.

    Meanwhile Russian forces entered Siversk and after crossing the river captured Platonivka yesterday looking to cut the main supply road from Liman. Hopefully they don't leave it too late this time.

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    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,864 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Ah there we go, another Istanbul for you to flash about in support of the Russians in order to frame them as reasonable.

    They'll even do it in Istanbul so you don't have to learn a new city name for this. How considerate of them.

    You still haven't addressed the multiple violations of international law that the Russians continue to be guilty of, for example the bombing of chlidren in their beds. Do you have any input on that while you get giddy for a new "Istanbul" to pepper your Cauldron Reports with?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    When it comes to finances, I expect Ukraine to be at an advantage. Anything Russia buys it’s at a premium. What it sells is depressed. Russia has few “friends”, certainly not China. Ukraine is getting massive loans that will almost certainly be written off and will get aid from a grateful West.


    North Korea is a Russian ally. But, it’s one of the poorest countries in the world… it’s populace starving. There are reports NK’s ammunition reserves are running low, with them supplying less quality munitions. NK stockpiled, that was their strength, but are an even bigger basket case than Russia. South Korea must be ecstatic at the turn of events. The West has been ramping up manufacture. Again, only one champion their long term.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Hopefully the first of many against Russian assets

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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