PK@rte.ie (again). The All New (Patrick Kielty) Late Late Show Thread

Graham Nortons show still pulls in 2.9 million live viewers in the UK, with more overseas. I think Kielty's show only pulls in about 600,000 live viewers a show now?

Interestingly, Norton salary is about 2.9 million euro. Kielty is paid much less per viewer than that. Kielty settles for it though as he knows he has no other option and is lucky to get it, as he attracts less viewers now than tubs did in his final season of the late late. At least the BBC are not discriminating against the Irishman born in our Irish Republic, he is doing well for himself. And Norton holidays here and has a holiday home here, Kielty never did, so I would say Norton is more Irish.

Tubs number where predicated on a number of facts as I see them. The death of a number of well known people in 2019/2020, Covid 19 and his exit all giving him generally good viewers, prior to this his audience numbers were falling.

As for PK he clearly takes an interest in Ireland from a cultural perspective, and he has a home in the north and his wider family continue to still live in the north.

I agree, I don't think Kielty see this as a long term gig (I think his production company has its eyes on the series but not with him as presenter). For RTÉ I think they saw it as a stop gap between Tubs and the next presenter, knowing they'd done little to promote someone to that position, but what have they really done in the last 2 and a half years to find a new host? Ciaran Cuddihy? :/

In that link , Kielty does not mention any holidays in this state. Tubs always used to mention his many frequent holidays in Co. Galway and his love of the west, and it is well know Gay Byrne had a holiday home in Donegal for most of his life and Grahan Nortan has one in Co. Cork.

Would be interesting to have a female presenter for next season, time mna got a chance rather than stale pale people. And maybe give 3 % of their salary in the form of vouchers for Irish hotels or air bnb, so they have to at least holiday here in the state if they do not live in the state. Put some euro back in to the country, like.

Is there even the slightest suggestion that Kielty's job is in jeopardy?

Says who? It's consistently top 5.

You are making up arbitrary points to have a go at him. Where he flies in from has sweet FA to do with anything or 'sustainability'.

No, I think the point I am making, is that Kielty was given a 3 year contract and it seemed to be a one off, now that could have changed, we should know at some point if he will take another 3 year contract with RTÉ for TLLS.

TLLS is due to be moved to an indo producer, I think its likely that Keilty's company is negotiating for that contract.

I wouldn't be surprised if they get it and that Cuddihy gets the job to present the show.

So we get it you think Keilty is not Irish because he is from the 6 counties, and he doesn't spend enough time on the other side of the boarder.

As for the mna getting a chance to present rather than stale pale people (I think you mean males, but are you excluding trans males?), your going from being ultra conservate FG anti-Norther Ireland patriotist to over the top woke Soc Dem anti-white privilege cultural warrior!

Do you think Tubs should return to the role?

As Tub's is from a FF family (on both sides) I doubt that he is a partitionist, but the thought never entered my head to be honest.

And your assuming that I am an SF supporter for using such a word that I assume a FF supporter would use it against FG, but then you didn't get I was juxtaposing you stance on PK with who should be the next presenter in an ironic fashion, hence the choice of words. (Partionist V Woke, FG V Soc Dem and on).

So the time is right for RT to return?

The evidence for the poor performance is that it has slipped even lower than Tubridy's last year doing the job.

At least Tubs put some euro back in to the Irish economy: he lived here, bought a tv licence, holidayed in the state and promoted how great the west of Ireland was to holiday in. He talked the talk, walked the walk although was far from perfect.

At prime time slot on a Friday night and with the budget and legacy behind it, ithe L.L.S. should be performing better.

I think it should be performing slight better but under the current media landscape it is doing fairly alright. I think tubs got out at the right time. But the whole idea that the show should not be presented by someone from northern Ireland, who is clearly an Irish nationalist and views himself as such, is not really an argument, as I say you are ruling out Mary McAleese as President of this "state" for the same reason.

Your suggesting that Virgin Radio should not have Tubs on UK radio because before he got the job he'd only ever lived in Ireland etc etc.

Irish people move around the island for work and shockingly commute to the UK in large numbers for work. Have done and always did.

To take a spite against one is odd.

No, nothing odd about it. !000's of people fly both ways for work here.

His job does not require him to 'emphatise' with anyone in particular. It is to present a light entertainment/topical TV programme.
It also does not require that he has a TV licence.

Stop embarrassing yourself trying to find sticks to beat him with. He'll do his stint, and either stay on or go somewhere else for work.

Will be magical if they are, that is something we can all agree on. It's why people have been tuning in to the Late Late for 60 years or whatever it is, to see national teasurers like our sporting heroes, our world class singers like Christy Moore or U2 etc. To be entertained by that or by comedy, song, dance, debate, life stories or whatever.

The Late Late Troy Show is what we want!