PK@rte.ie (again). The All New (Patrick Kielty) Late Late Show Thread

Why has it being falling for the last 5 years?

In the 1980s a lot, if not most of the country had 5 or 6 channels. Those 5 or 6 are still the most watched now I'd imagine.

I'd argue that Keilty is a good presenter, I don't think it matters that he is from the north. But I'd also ague that the show over the last 26 years has been on a downward slid.

Both Keilty and RTÉ had an opportunity to get the best for the show. I think the show does serve Keilty well and that actually he's probably the main draw. But audiences are down for the show.

He will always have comparisons to Byrne, Kenny and Tubridy. IMO he's is never going to reach the heights of Byrne but I don't think he or RTÉ are trying.

You were saying RTÉ have had no increase in funding (from the licence fee). You failed to mention on that on several occasions RTÉ had seen increases in pubic funding. Which I listed.

It is incorrect to on this point that RTÉ have always had other sources of funding prior to 2019 when prior to that only Commercial and Licence fee funding where what made up their income.

You now have change to say you meant Commercial funding as being the other forms of income rather than, how you had tackled my point that RTÉ now receives funding from government outside the normal Licence Fee.

I will consider that Commercial funding is another form of income but it is not many and it is not public funding, which is what we were talking about.

You had seen I clearly pointed to commercial revenue and licence fee revenue in my posts, and that I was clearly referring to public funding.

absolutely I agree RTÉ public funding has changed since 2019 as per my posts and just to be clear: -

RTÉ Funding prior to 2019

1. Licence Fee (set at 2008 levels)
2. Commercial Revenue

RTÉ Funding after 2019

1. Licence fee (no increase)
2. Commercial revenue (varies year to year)
3. Government intervention (50 m between 2020-2024)
4. bailout since 2024 of 750m across 2025, 26 and 27.
5. Restructuring of RTÉ in 2022 with the move of the NSOI and NCH saving RTÉ €7 m per year.

Agreed?

Also you mention that there has been a fall in TV licence sales over the last 5 years, do you care to admit why?

you also have to consider the growth of British Soap during the 1980s and 1990s and that popularity at that time, that had largely changed by the 2000s, but British broadcasters had put huge money into them and there was a certain amount of economies of scale, by the 2000s there were at least 10 UK soaps on the air, ultimately over that decade they began to be cancelled, now their are only 4 UK soaps (Coro St, Emmers, EastE and Casualty).

I'd argue that towards the end of the 1990 and 2000 UK and Irish channels were resting on this striped schedule of programming with little change, when you compare a 70s prime time schedule with a late 2000s one you have a greater variety of shows.

I'd argue that across BBC and ITV their content account for about 60% of all view across all platforms. They just don't have that central pull.

TLLS isn't pulling those audience back to its show, or the RTÉ player.

That might be it. I used to enjoy Graham Norton, but it's become a love in, all trying to get a laugh from the audience. I think you've put it better than I have. Wonder how long it will last?

No, no intention of, just wanted to make sure you understood after all these years why there has been a 100% increase in non-payments.

Well if you don't know you, continue to buy. I am sure that 100% increase will continue to mystify you, and there is no point in trying to enlighten you.

If your happy with ok, we should really bring back Dee Forbes and co. shouldn't we, they were alright.

Yes you are right for 44c a day RTÉ is truly the best national public service broadcaster we have.

You'd really need to prove to me you understand why there has been a 100% increase non-payment of licence fees in the last 5 years, and you have yet to, so how could I enlighten you when I don't know what you don't seem to want to know.

Indeed that's my problem I am such a rebel, so many people like me that just don't keep things in order or pay their way.

However, I am sadly much like yourself one of those people who don't like pirating content services, never been one for the auld dodgy box or ripped DVD.

But you go ahead and think that we aren't good citizens all you like.

I couldn't find the spitting image skit of the same ad, that was a funny comeback.