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Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Lester_Burnham


    If your contract is up on the 22nd you switch on the 23rd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 148 ✭✭Mumser


    I have tried reading the last few weeks of posts in this thread and have used EneryPal and Bonkers. My head is melted!

    I am seeing smart tariffs with a single 24hr rate. I understood that the reason many people wanted to stay away from activating their smart meter was the day/peak/night rates did not work out good for them and same for me. I know once activated we can't go back. Now that some suppliers have the flat 24hr rate on smart plans is it still a problem? Or do you think this is a ploy where suppliers may switch back to expensive multi rate plans in the future?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 turfer239


    I've a similar query to this... contract with flogas coming to an end this month. Energypal says Yuno is the best.

    Just wondering if anyone has any recent views on Yuno and the switch to smart meters generally.

    Thank you 🙏



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭user060916


    From my experience avoid.

    My smart meter apparently doesn't have enough signal to send the data to Yuno. So I have to manually send meter readings. But they only take 24 hour meter readings not the three T1/T2/T3.

    Rang ESB who told me Yuno have sent in a order for 24 hour tariff so they can only take the one reading too.

    Still getting bills with the split but Yuno refuse to tell me how they're getting/calculating the split.

    During sign up missed a call. Rang back immediately but was told only one agent could handle my switch. Promised they'd call me back in 5 minutes. Never did. Had to chase them a few times to get it processed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Got a few mails from Flo Gas when we switched, already with them for Gas so they had payment details. Switch easy enought and got last bill from EI. First Elec bill will be €150 in credit so see how that goes



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,083 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut


    I had switched to Flogas yesterday but got a call from Energia this morning

    Got a 33% discount and also 150 credit on my bill. The 150 tipped it in favour of Energia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭geriatric


    Same. I had switched dual fuel to Flogas and got call with same percentage off plus 150 electric credit and a gas boiler service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭Bawnmore


    Did you need to actually leave to get that? Or just threaten?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭geriatric


    I left and they called me twice! Second time with the gas boiler service included. I'm not a big user of gas or electric



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭MallowMan17




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,083 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Metalpanic


    No, I just spoke to the retention team and asked what they were offering. Initially I was offered €150 cash back and slightly worse rates. I created a custom tariff on EnergyPal and told them it was still way off the best value for me, so they adjusted. I have found once you mention EnergyPal they don't faff about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭daheff


    anybody else having issues trying to switch to Flogas?

    I signed up on their website to their gas plan only to get a mail a few days later telling me that Gas networks rejected my meter reading (they couldn't have as Flogas did not ask for a meter read at any point of the sign up process, which i thought strange at the time). So i sent them a picture of the meter reading to which they again said Gas networks rejected it. Flogas requested a time stamped image of my meter.

    "we suggest your(sic) place an up-to-date newspaper or mobile phone showing the date next to your meter to prove its live"

    never had this level of disbelief of my meter reading before. Almost seems as if Flogas don't want customers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭The Gardener


    I think the problem is that Flogas have been inundated with new sign-ups. I "switched" from Electric Ireland to Flogas on September 24th, heard nothing until I received a letter confirming my direct debit details a couple of weeks later. No welcome pack, no account number or any other communication from them until yesterday when a bill arrived in the post. The "switch" didn't take place till October 6th.

    However, I can't figure out why they need proof of the date of your meter reading, surely it would even up or down at your next billing date.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,437 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Happened to me with looking for a photo of the meter & paper when I moved house - there hadn't been a meter read in a while & the submitted amount was out of line with the expected usage.
    Bit bloody awkward when meter is under the stairs!

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,836 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Because you could use an old photo.

    Imagine you forgot to switch and were on a high unit rate for gas. You then sign up to FloGas on a lower rate and use an old photo. You then submit a high reading with FloGas and pay for that gas on the lower rate. In effect, the photo is required to stop fraud. Seems a bit heavy handed to me but I can see the potential issue.

    How GNI know to reject the reading? I don't know! Significant time between your last actual meter reading by GNI and now? Sufficient difference between your estimated reading and your submitted reading?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭daheff


    Absolutely you could use an old photo. Or lie with the data being provided. Or photoshop it.

    But as long as the reading is reasonable, i don't think theres much to quibble about over a few units.

    I've switched elsewhere via bonkers and they have not required a photo (as yet) to make the switch. so it seems to me that either Flogas are the blocker (and blame GNI) or theres a serious deficiency in the switching process.

    My bet is that the blocker is Flogas (as they rejected me first time without even having a reading and used the same excuse that GNI rejected my reading).

    Also my account had a small credit (not sure how) on it back in Sept with SSE, so potentially thats causing an issue too (but meter reading is higher than then). Looking at the previous bill (12/sep) it was based on an actual read. My read on 6/nov was 77 units higher. We've had a reasonably mild sept/oct so not much usage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭waxmelts2000


    my smart data contract is up next Thursday , having read here I rang Energia and I ran my numbers through energy pal and EI day night rate is coming up with the best rate. Energia offered me two rates 20% discount and then 30% discount with a €150 credit , he offered €100 at the beginning. These are the rates 28.14 day, 30.02 peak and 14.79 EI and Energia 29.49, 33.12 and 16.21 night. So my question is would you go with the Higher unit rates and the cash bonus or lower unit rates and no bonus. He reckons the difference is €60 in Energia favour



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭eurokev


    Are you already with energia to get the 150 credit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    Don't forget that EI didn't raise their prices when Energia & others did in the last few months. The chances are that EI will raise their rates in the autumn. You need to bear this in mind when making your decision.

    Edit: autumn should read spring!

    Post edited by Gooser14 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,224 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    From RTÉ in September


    Electric Ireland is to decrease gas prices for 140,000 customers by 4% from the beginning of November, while there will be no increase for the company's 1.1 million electricity customers ahead of the winter.

    The announcement from the country's biggest energy supplier will be welcomed by consumers, who had been bracing for further price rises after a number of companies recently increased their tariffs.

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,827 ✭✭✭wassie


    I would initiate a switch to EI and wait for retentions to call back. If they cant beat it then your on the best plan.

    Otherwise to answer your question, go with what ever financially works out the best for you over 12 months - only you can answer that. Also, if you accept a cash back, make sure they cant claw it back if you choose to cancel in the future by checking the T&Cs.

    I did cancelled early recently with Energia and there was no claw back on my €100 cashback, but thats not to say they havent changed their T&Cs in the meantime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Lester_Burnham




  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    I wouldnt be surprised to see EI announce a price increase as early as spring tbh….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Lester_Burnham


    Exactly. That's my point. If they do increase prices they're not waiting a year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Gooser14




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭waxmelts2000


    Thnks yes I’m currently with Energia and contract is up next Thursday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭cassette50


    I'm getting solar panels installed but are stuck with our old meter for now (no smart meter).

    Does anyone know the best day/night tariffs for non-smart meter customers as the comparison websites don't really show that option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭ggmad


    I’ve had a great experience with Yuno so far (with them about a month).

    The app is very easy to navigate, the chat support on app is near instant for me and I got a credit over +€300 when joining.

    They were by far the lowest price option for me (2 person household).

    I have my electricity and gas with them.

    For context, I already had a smart meter before joining.

    If anyone has any questions on them, please reach out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 platypuss


    i was going to sign with flogas bwg but I see they have flogas.ie/price-plan/24-hour-smart-30-discount/ plan thats about 100e cheaper.

    i have an inactivated smart meter. any reason to not activate it?



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