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Smart #1 and #3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    I like the #3 better but not sure about the very high centre console, it looks like it might be a little claustrophobic in the front. I would have to see one in the flesh to make a proper decision though so I will keep an open mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,488 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    The photo on the landing page looks like a kia esoul (left) and BYD (right)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    i instantly thought of BYD. both front and back are very similar.

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I wonder if the Smart branding is going to affect these, when I think Smart I think of the dinky car, the Smart #3 looks pretty decent but I can't imagine people thinking of them.

    It's similar underneath to the EX30, the Volvo brand may have a better reputation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Ir3


    I see theres a 251 offer on the #1 bringing the price down to 25K!

    https://www.completecar.ie/car-news/article/14178/Smart-1-in-the-Clearance-Collection



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I like what I see so far - it’s a car you’d be happy to be seen in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,422 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    I don't see any offer or sales incentive in those figures? The official RRP is 30,800 for the basic spec. Minus standard vrt relief (1,984) and SEAI grant of 3,500 leaves you with 25,316. No discounts that I could catch? Unless that headline RRP figure has some kind of booster built into it perhaps?

    Taking the Inster on head to head with those specs anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭September1


    I think that due to how VRT relief and grant works they have adjusted RRP, but for example Smart #1 Brabus according to this article https://www.carzone.ie/car-reviews/smart-1-2024/1136 used to cost 54k and is no 38k



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Will someone/anyone please tell me why I shouldn’t buy a Smart #1?
    I’m interested in hearing criticism of the car but also very interested in hearing any owners thoughts. I’m certainly considering a purchase - I might end up going for a secondhand Cupra Born but I like the idea of a brand new car circa 30k



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,470 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I only saw one and sat in one at the NEVO show but was impressed with it. I dont personally like the exterior design, looks a little bit like Mini countryman or something, defo dont think it looks as well as a Born, but if you do and you also like how it drives (I have no idea) then no reason not to buy one.

    Is the 30k one well specced? I see them being listed all the way up close to 40k and I suspect that's the ine I was sitting in. Born not too much more expensive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Thanks - intend to explore over coming week- especially if I can get a 30k version for 25k - let’s see how it goes- and yes, overinflated MINI is a good description of the exterior



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭September1


    I could see #1 having some downsides vs competing cars. It is a very tall car which means very poor economy and low range especially during longer journeys. Renault 5 with smaller battery has very similar range. For example #3 has same battery but thanks to better shape a bit better range. Boot is really small even in its class. 27cm shorter Renault 5 has larger boot.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 751 CMod ✭✭✭✭LIGHTNING


    I drove one last week, I think its a very nice car to drive. The interior infotainment is probably the nicest I have used. Spec is nice but the Pro version at 25k the dealers are very reluctant to order. The Pro+ is 5k and it literally just adds 100km to range.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Johnfred


    I’m getting a Pro Plus next week. Any hints or tips? Are there any owners on here that have had problems?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭September1


    Are you getting #1 or #3? It is brand new or exdemo/prereg?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Johnfred




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Johnfred


    Are Smart being discontinued in Ireland due to disappointing sales ?Heard a rumour they were.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭September1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Johnfred


    Are they going to launch Smart #5 in Ireland or are they abandoning us? The #1 and #3 don’t seem to be selling at all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,050 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Neighbours of ours have a #1. So that's at least 1 sold 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,673 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I know someone who has #3. Thats another sold lol. Really sad not to see them doing well. They are lovely cars inside.

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    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    There’s a Smart 3- 2024 going for just under 35k on Carzone-it doesn’t have a particularly great range nor does it have anything other than a standard warranty for this money - I think it’s a great looking car and quite unique on the roads - but would you be stuck for servicing in years to come I wonder? Can’t see smart lasting too long in Ireland given current sales - it’s a heart car not a head car in my view



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭September1


    The fact they don't launch #5 (and #1 refresh) would worry me about long term future of those cars in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    are they not owned by Mercedes partly?

    The few times I have sen them has been tucked in a corner of Mercedes garage and there has been no great push to market the brand here.

    The smart #5 is the forthcoming Mercedes GLB in a different suit from what I have read



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Smart are still considered to be a micro 2-seater car brand here. Shaking off that old look will take a lot of time.

    If they do pull out you will still have the expansive Mercedes dealership network for your servicing and parts and there are EU rules around supporting vehicles for (I think) 10 years after the car is sold



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,753 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Ah stop with your common sense- I wanted to be talked out of buying one 😀

    If/when I do buy an EV this Smart 3 will likely be a consideration - it does look well



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Their sales are up in 2025.

    But mostly because 183 were sold in June for some reason.

    I wonder if they preregistered them in June or if people actually bought them at discount prices.

    There was deals floating around on done deal in June if memory serves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Johnfred


    They pre regged their remaining stock at the end of June, many of which are still sitting in dealers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭September1


    Why would they do it just before new plates? Was there any law change that would make those cars illegal to register on 1st July?



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