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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    Warning this is graphic, do not watch if you gave a weak constitution!

    israeli settlers raided a Palestinian farm to torture and slaughter sheep. Some of them were left disfigured with their eyes gouged out. This is not the first case of settlers slaughtering Palestinian sheep as there have been previous cases of them stealing and killing them.

    The full video is on Eye on Palestine

    Savages that will turn on each other … hopefully



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭EV01


    1867 pages. Wow!

    What commentary has there been on EU ‘leaders’ complicity? With the exception of nations like Ireland and Spain.

    The UK Prime Minister, ‘Sir’ Kier Starmer, is not just complicit he is one of the biggest mass murderers in British history, as are the rest of his disgusting Cabinet of Criminals. We have to hope that one day he will be prosecuted for his crimes and locked up for the rest of his miserable life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,236 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    There seems to be a competition to trawl the internet for the most revolting videos and accounts?

    Take a look at yourselves lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    I suppose this is the reason that journalists are not allowed into Gaza, it’s not the vile criminals who are guilty of crimes but the people who report them who are guilty of … well reporting them!

    Take a good look at yourself Brendan Bendar!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,943 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    I'm sorry that reality is troubling you. Please feel free to substitute it for something less brutal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,400 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Once again, nobody is forcing to read anything on this site. And certainly no one is forcing you to come on here every few days just to write a couple of lines of useless nonsense and whinge about people discussing a topic on a discussion forum.

    Maybe having a look at yourself would be the better course of action.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭EV01




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,233 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Genuinely One of the most hateful bitches on the planet.

    I saw another video of her where she denied settler violence in an interview and refused to look at the video the interviewer tried to show her of a Palestinian woman being beaten. Hateful, evil, demonic woman.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    She is odious. But worse is that she clearly has a platform to spread her bile and plenty of people listen to her and believe. She incites hatred, racism and extreme violence. In any other "democratic" state, she'd be arrested, charged and incarcerated.

    More proof that Israel is not democratic at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Read a brief report earlier from Haaretz (paywalled) on the Palestinians harvesting their olives in the West Bank.

    IDF have denied them entry to the olive groves as they did not ask for permission and get clearance. Local govt. stated that no such permission is required.

    Perhaps the IDF just didn't want to be seen stealing the olives themselves - which is precisely what they were doing.

    "Most moral army in the world"?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,233 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    She's absolutely, unquestionably an agent of the state. I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised if I heard she had a defacto "Get Out Of Jail Free" card in her possession.

    Her placement of settlers is 100% coordinated with the actions of the IDF.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    A lot more detail is coming out following the leaked video of the IDF anally raping a prisoner with an iron bar. And not just about that particular case - which the alleged perpetrators now want cancelled. There is now talk that the execution of aid workers was simply not investigated even though "orders were violated".


    The IDF's former top prosecutor, Yifat Tomer-Yerushalmi, who resigned last week due to her involvement in the leaking of a video showing the alleged abuse of a Gazan detainee by Israeli guards at the Sde Teiman detention facility, refrained from launching probes into several incidents in Gaza that could have constituted violations of international law or even war crimes because she felt threatened by right-wing incitement against her, senior IDF sources told Haaretz.

    A reserve officer serving in the IDF prosecutor's office told Haaretz that after an Israeli strike in Gaza killed seven volunteers from the World Central Kitchen in April 2024, "it was very clear that the entire incident violated orders and regulations," but that after Tomer-Yerushalmi transferred the case to the IDF's operational investigation mechanism, "the incident simply disappeared… When the findings made it clear that the case required a Military Police investigation, it never happened."

    The reserve soldiers accused of abusing a Gazan detainee at the Sde Teiman detention facility called for their trial to be cancelled in a press conference, saying "You conducted a show trial against us, but know this – we will not stay silent. We will continue to fight for justice." Their lawyer, Adi Kedar of the far-right legal aid organization Honenu, said "cancel the trial immediately and prosecute the legal chief," referring to Tomer-Yerushalmi.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭EV01


    ‘Western governments’ pretend they’re the Good Guys

    but there’s enough evidence in this thread to prosecute +convict not just the (almost) entire population, military and ‘government’ of Israel but the entire (almost) ‘Western’ political class

    if The Day The Earth Stood Still happened today for real, Klatu would just throw up his hands and let Gort get on with it…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Alleged War Criminal #1 (at large) has been trying to sack the AG for a long time. His hyperbole is off the scale as usual but interesting that he's using the Hasbara against his own. Even more interesting that he wants an independent investigation of the leak - he's been refusing an independent investigation of Oct 7th for two years now.

    Seems the Justice Minister also tried to put the boot in but got short shrift in return.

    Such a belligerent state - when they're not killing Palestinians, they're knocking lumps out of each other. Ingrained in the psyche.


    PM Netanyahu called the former prosecutor's leak of the video showing the alleged abuse "perhaps the most severe propaganda attack that the State of Israel has experienced since its establishment. This requires an independent investigation, and I expect that one will also be carried out."

    After Justice Minister Yariv Levin informed the Attorney General Gali Baharav-Miara on Saturday that she was barred from handling the case due to her personal involvement in the investigation, and also because, according to him, there was a high probability that she will be required to testify in it, the AG responded that Levin has no authority to prevent her from investigating the video leak and said his decision "constitutes an attempt to unlawfully interfere in investigative and enforcement proceedings."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Now their favourite whipping boy, Gaza, is out of bounds (at least partially), Israel is now kicking off about Lebanon.

    Seems Israel is down in the dumps unless they're killing or threatening someone they don't like.


    U.S. Special Envoy to Syria and Lebanon Tom Barrack told Saudi outlet Asharq News that international expectations that Lebanon can disarm Hezbollah are "unreasonable," but that the group does not constitute a serious threat to Israel. Barrack noted the difficulty in telling Lebanon to "forcibly disarm one of your political parties. Everyone's scared to death to go into a civil war," adding that the path to stability lies in negotiations with Israel. If Beirut does not reach out to conduct direct talks, Barrack said, the conditions in the country may deteriorate.

    • Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz said on X that "Hezbollah is playing with fire and the President of Lebanon is dragging his feet," saying that the Lebanese government's commitment to disarming Hezbollah "must be realized," and IDF military operations in the country "will continue and even intensify." On Saturday, the IDF said it killed the logistics support officer of Hezbollah's elite Radwan Force on Saturday in southern Lebanon.
    • An Israeli source told the Saudi Al Arabiya channel that "it is estimated that Hezbollah has managed to smuggle hundreds of short-range missiles out of Syria," adding that Israel will not withdraw from southern Lebanon in the near future, and has "conveyed the message" that it may bomb Beirut's Dahiyeh neighborhood "if Hezbollah does not disarm." According to the source, "Egypt has joined the mediation efforts to prevent escalation on the Lebanese front."

      Lebanese sources told Haaretz that they believe Israel is escalating tensions with Lebanon via strikes and public statements in order to pressure the Lebanese government to enter into negotiations on a comprehensive agreement between the two countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Europe-wide actions at sea and air ports would impact Israel

    The European Union is Israel’s largest trading partner, accounting for 32 percent of Israel’s total trade in goods in 2024. The EU supplies 34.2 percent of Israel’s imports and receives 28.8 percent of its exports. Much of Israel’s military supplies and logistics come from EU countries. Disrupting this supply chain could directly undermine Israel’s war machine.

    Ports are critical chokepoints in this chain because they control the flow of goods. Selective industrial action at ports halting shipments to or from Israel would have a significant impact. Israeli goods represent just 0.8 percent of the EU’s total trade, so such actions would hit Israel hard while minimally affecting EU economies.

    Moreover, disrupting EU ports would ripple beyond Europe. Much of Israel’s trade with the United States, its top trading partner with $55bn in trade in goods and services in 2024, passes through major European ports. Blocking transshipments or increasing cargo costs by forcing ships to avoid EU hubs could increase steeply the cost of Israeli logistics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    This would be a welcome election result.

    With humour, warmth, and a few lines of Arabic, Zohran Mamdani has set himself apart in the final stretch of New York City’s mayoral race.

    The Democratic frontrunner released a campaign video on Saturday addressed directly to Arab New Yorkers, greeting them in a Levantine accent and weaving between jokes and policy pledges.

    In the short clip, filmed in a local grocery store, Mamdani smiles as he says: "My name is Zohran Mamdani, and I’m running to be the next mayor of New York City. I know what you’re thinking - I might look like your brother-in-law from Damascus, but my Arabic needs a little work."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,078 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Going to make a massive leap here and assume you have no problem with it when it is proof of Palestinians committing the crimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,566 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I wasn't sure about her until i read your post. She must be doing a good job given you are so vehemently against her. I was reading an article today that was critical of Russia . In response to the allegations made in the article, the Kremlin accused its critics of being Russophobes- it all seems so familiar- then i immediately thought of you. You are in good company with others who lash out at their wrongdoing being highlighted.

    Post edited by nacho libre on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,943 ✭✭✭Odhinn




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,233 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    For all those with a total memory span of 2 yrs and about 27 days. Look at the date.

    20251103_005824.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,943 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Indeed.

    "A British UN project manager shot by an Israeli sniper was unlawfully killed, a UK inquest has concluded.

    Coroner Dr Peter Dean said he was so concerned by the case and the fact 13 UN workers have died in Jenin, he will write to Prime Minister Tony Blair."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/suffolk/4534620.stm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,233 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Writing to Tony Blair then was as much use as t would be writing to him now.

    Those 13 UN workers probably all had ties to kHamas anyway don't you know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Israel are the worst terrorists the World has known yet the West supports them without reservation. The Settlers are committing ethnic cleansing while the IDF are exterminating children.

    The Director General of Health Affairs in the Gaza Strip, Munir Al-Bursh, has revealed that Israeli forces left behind booby-trapped dolls and toys designed to attract children. He said this shows a new face of the ongoing genocide, despite the ceasefire that has been in place for more than three weeks.

    In a post on Facebook on Sunday, Al-Bursh wrote: “Bombs in the form of dolls – the Israeli army did not only leave behind destroyed houses, but also left time bombs in the hands of children.”

    He added: “In the narrow alleys and among the ruins of homes, the remains of rockets and unexploded shells are scattered, as if they continue their killing mission even after the soldiers have gone.” He confirmed that “every day, hospitals receive the torn bodies of small children, severed limbs, and faces disfigured due to childhood curiosity and innocence.”

    Al-Bursh explained that “the most dangerous of all remnants of war are those that resemble the devil in the face of an angel – booby-trapped toys: dolls, birds, and small teddy bears left to tempt the little ones. When a child reaches for the ‘beautiful toy’, the horrifying truth explodes in their face – that the army claiming morality has planted death in the heart of childhood itself.”

    He concluded, “The ‘doll’ has turned into a landmine, the ‘small teddy bear’ into a tool of amputation and disfigurement, and the ‘coloured ball’ into a trap that steals an entire childhood.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Have any Western leaders spoken out to support her? Where are Starmer, Macron, Von Der Leyen, Merz, etc. in defence of a whistle-blower exposing a war crime?

    Will she be abused by the rapists in the video she leaked or maybe some Israeli government members will want to do it?

    Israeli police arrested former military prosecutor Yifat Tomer-Yerushalmi, the internal security minister said Monday, after a scandal sparked by a leaked video appearing to show soldiers abusing a Palestinian detainee.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭wildgreen


    Caitlin Johnstone

    Israel keeps violating the “ceasefire” and bombing Gaza whenever it wants to, then saying the ceasefire is back in effect. It’s like saying you’ve quit smoking whenever you’re not currently having a cigarette.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    No love lost between Turkey and Israel.

    • The foreign ministers of Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the UAE, Jordan, Pakistan and Indonesia met in Istanbul on Monday to discuss further steps toward implementing Trump's cease-fire plan.
    • Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said at the meeting that there are "some issues in implementing the cease-fire in Gaza," and that "Israel is violating it regularly." Fidan added that the countries involved in the truce are still working on a planned UN mandate for a stabilization force in Gaza, and that Turkey wants to see a post-war framework in which "Palestinians ensure Palestine's governance and security."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Ben-Gvir (convicted terrorist and racist) prolonged the harm and suffering to hostages.

    "Far-right minister Itamar Ben-Gvir is in charge of Israel's prison service, and spoke proudly during the war of worsening the conditions of the thousands of Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails.

    Ben-Gvir was warned several times by Israeli intelligence officials that his policy on this issue, and more importantly, his swaggering public statements about it, will harm the hostages.

    He dismissed and ignored the warnings – and only when the hostages returned alive from Gaza, did the full extent of the damage he caused become clear.

    The blame for the suffering of the hostages rests first and foremost with Hamas, needless to say.

    But Israelis expected their own government not to make things worse for those hostages, and Ben-Gvir failed that test deliberately"

    Amir Tibon



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,640 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    "Most Moral Army in the World":

    "A Palestinian detainee allegedly abused at Israel's Sde Teiman detention facility has been returned to Gaza without his testimony being taken, the Military Advocate General's Office informed the defense attorneys of the five Israeli guards indicted in the case.

    According to the indictment, the five beat the detainee, dragged him across the floor, stepped on him, and used a taser against him. One reservist, the indictment said, also stabbed the detainee in the buttocks, causing rectal injury. The detainee suffered fractured ribs, a punctured lung and a perforated colon."



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