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Cadburys in profit but has no milk in it anymore

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 Little Miss Fun


    I haven’t eaten Cadbury chocolate since my Easter egg. I couldn’t believe how grainy it was have avoided Cadbury chocolate all year and won’t be buying it at Christmas for myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    LOL… The only way to eat Cadbury’s now is to drink with a glass of milk, as mentioned before. But, I think the Buttons are the most suitable. The twirls (unless they have changed recently) are woeful. And if you are unlucky to eat the ones from the celebrations ‘tin’ you may as well eat ash from the fire.

    The taste has deteriorated over the last 30 years so as to be unrecognisable. Those that say they can’t tell the difference are either 80 a day smokers, have defective taste buds or experienced a ‘boiling frog’ type step change in taste they don’t realise it.

    Sadly, Cadbury’s is a palm oil infested, milk depleted parody of its 80/90’s self.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,297 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I strongly suspect the chocolate used in Easter eggs is a different grade of chocolate to dairy milk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,605 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Isn't it different depending on what size bar you get?
    The smaller 54g bars are made in Ireland Rathmiles, Kerry and Coolock, Dublin with Irish milk but the larger bars are made in Poland with different ingredients and different ratios or something like that.

    From Reddit:

    There is an important code on the back of Cadbury’s bar wrappers, which tells you where this bar of chocolate was made. If the code begins OBO, it was made at Bournville in Birmingham, in the UK; if it begins OCO, it was made at Coolock, near Dublin, in Ireland; if it begins with any other letters, such as OWR, then it was made somewhere else, such as Poland. I'm guessing that last one means Wroclaw.

    And if it's made in either the UK or Ireland, then IT'S STILL MADE TO THE ORIGINAL RECIPE!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭fullstop




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,610 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Its true.

    Heard it from a forklift driver.

    They use shot glasses to get around the advertising legalities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    ”And if it's made in either the UK or Ireland, then IT'S STILL MADE TO THE ORIGINAL RECIPE!”

    It might be the closest to the original recipe or the “same” if you change the mixture i.e. does contain milk, but less of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭almostover


    I grew up 5 miles over the county bounds on the Cork side to the plant in Rathmore. In fact the plant is right on the boundary as the Blackwater river flows right alongside it.

    There is a local co-op on the Cork side (Boherbue) and every single litre of milk they take in goes directly to the Cadburys plant to make crumb. That crumb then goes to Dublin to make chocolate.

    The issue is that Mondelez have stripped out the cocoa from the chocolate as it's the most expensive ingredient. Sugar and milk are cheap in comparison. In fact, dairy milk can no longer be labelled as chocolate as the cocoa content is below 25% now. Have a look at a dairy milk wrapper now. It's not labelled as chocolate anymore. Sad really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    Speaking of Crumb. When I was a lad some of this was smuggled out. It was either in powder form or “rock” form. Sorry to say, unless you’ve tasted this raw… you’ve never eaten the cocaine of chocolate 😱



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Dublin Calling


    The drain on Cadbury's was the pensioners. From the original Cadbury's days the employees had good old fashioned defined benefit pensions, and there was a lot of them. These pensioners are now dieing off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,625 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Is there any chocolate I can purchase that is both competitive with Cadbury for price and has not compromised on their recipe?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 96,244 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Aldi's Dairyfine. Cadburys is better but not by as nearly much as the price would suggest. And that's only for the products made in Coolock IIRC it's only Buttons, the 8 square Dairy Milk and one other bar.

    Everything else including different sized Dairy Milk is made abroad so can't have Irish milk and is closer to Dairyfine than the proper Cadburys as was.

    Nestle replace coca products with sugar. All the old Rowntree Mackintosh favourites are now too insipid to eat. How they behave with regard to water, and milk products for infants isn't as ethical as you would like.

    Kraft and Mondelez replace the fats with cheaper ones.

    In the US back in the day it was difficult to get fresh milk so the Americans got used to the taste of chocolate made with sour milk. So avoid any of their international products.

    And the big boys have bought out a lot of the premium brands over time. Check the boxes. Unless proven otherwise assume they have cheapened the ingredients.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 96,244 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


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    It's a workaround…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,787 ✭✭✭degsie


    Aldi/Lidl have better alternatives. Pay special attention to the packaging for ingredients etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Big secret: there are two ingredients lists. One is the one on the back of the pack, that is what you the consumer needs to know. The other is the one that goes to the Dept of food and agriculture, that is the full list with all additives and ingredients.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,305 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I don't have any particular interest in chocolate so don't have any skin in the game of defending Cadbury's product, but I really, really, really wish people would stop posting that nonsense about them not being allowed call it chocolate anymore. Literally took this just now:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Short answer "No!". You pay for what you get. You would be better off spending money on a big box of lindor than a bar of muck a day.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,297 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    stands up on bus

    i think the 'mouthfeel' of lindor is inferior to dairy milk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,305 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Well Lindor have a soft centre, of course they're going to have a completely different mouthfeel?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,297 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i may be thinking of lindt so?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭cobham


    Mint Crisp is my favourite and made in Coolock I believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,305 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Yeah, Lindt is the chocolate itself. Lindor are those little roundy truffle things they do that everyone seems to love.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 297 ✭✭Dr.Tom


    Worked in an ice cream plant a long time ago. Amongst the product range we manufactured….

    Chocolate Icecream

    Chocolate Flavoured Icecream

    Two distinctly different products. Law states there has to be X amount of cocoa solids for it to be called the former.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    They have reduced the cocoa because there is a global cocoa supply crisis and the price has skyrocketed. There are 2 choices, not be able to produce enough chocolate due to the shortage, and what they do produce will be twice as expensive, or reformulate with less cocoa. It’s not the big conspiracy some are making out.

    To your last point, it’s called out as chocolate on just about every website, including Cadbury’s.

    https://www.cadbury.ie/products/brands/cadbury-dairy-milk/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Critical thinking is a thing of the past unfortunately. Everyone is an expert on everything, but in reality they don’t have a clue, they just read it on Facebook. These companies get more engagement from the mid-informed/gullible, hence removing fact-checking. See Kim Kardashian going around saying that Buzz Aldrin has admitted the moon landings were a hoax this week as a perfect example.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Without commenting on the truth of this, because it sounds reasonable, I just don't care to check since I don't buy Cadbury's … I'm sure that if the price of cocoa came down / supply went up, they'll absolutely either a) reduce the price of the bars, or b) increase the amount of cocoa back to what it was before … right?

    Will they sh*te.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 freiteg


    This is absolutely no surprise.

    Cadbury's is American owned (Mondelez International) and is as bad as any chocolate you get in the US these days.

    It's infuriating though that it's so hard to buy non American (or nestle) chocolate if you fancy something from the local. Best you can do from the local is usually a Lind bar or a kinder bueno



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,574 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    I try to stick to Tony's for the record. Hard enough to come buy, not that that's a bad thing for my pocket or waistline.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭almostover


    I'll hold my hands up on the labelling error, seems like I was misinformed.

    Mondelez had a net income of $4.61 billion in 2024. So yes, cocoa shortages have led to price increases but Mondelez chose to decrease the quality of their product rather than decrease their margins. I'd pay more for the product if it had more cocoa and milk in it, chocolate is a luxury product anyway.



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