Presidential Election 2025

Never voted for FF/FG.

My vote is based on who I believe would be better at the role and who I align with more in my views.

I will vote for the candidate/party that I believe represents my views best.

Is it any wonder people are scared when they see the contigent that CC gathers around herself.

Daly,Wallace.Murphy,Flanagan, Doherty, Eirigy lady, and so on……………

Not the most productive bunch you ever saw, I would opine.

Batten down the hatches Middle Ireland…..

Turnout figures.

Dublin 9.30.

• Dublin North West - 2.35%
• Dublin Bay North – 4.25% 
• Dublin Central – 4%
• Dublin Bay South 3.8%
• Dublin South Central – 1.7%

Waterford (10.30)
Waterford City: 7%
Tramore: 8%
Dungarvan 5-6%

Never put a tick beside a FF or FG candidate in any election.

Will continue to vote left but generally those to the left of Labour .

From the people who gave FG Leo Varadkar and one of the worst GE defeats ever for FG? From the people who gave FG Simon Harris and second place behind SF again?

Did it ever occur to you that the FG grassroots might have a better clue about winning elections than these people? Kelly has a proven record of getting large numbers of votes across the political spectrum. This is the kind of candidate that FG needed. It is no longer the party of 2011 with 76 Dail seats. It only has half that number now. Humphreys failed to break out of the FG silo. She is an FG candidate for FG supporters. The problem, if you haven't realised it yet, is that FG does not have enough supporters to elect a president without help from FF and other voters.

Rejecting Kelly like that was a stupid move. Given the history of stupid moves by FG management, that statement about if it was raining soup, FG would be out with a fork is apt.

If you don't think an FF/FG coalition is new politics, you're missing the point.

on the one hand the Irish President only has a ceremonial role at best, on the other hand the role has so much influence the wrong candidate will destroy the country. The funny thing is the extreme ends of both side use this argument to further their own argument when it suits.

Well in my view there is no question that, the kite being flown on how to deal with cost of living increases - is a tax credit based system.

Its been discussed for months, as far back as the spring, when MM and SH both stated that the 'One off Payments' and 'Energy Credits' would be discontinued. MM spoke of targetting these issues for tax credits which would 'offer the same benefit in a more targetted way' (words to this effect, not a quote)

Look we can disagree if you wish - you quoted me above, and i acknowledge that; and it was at a time when i was replying to multiple discussions. I stand by my criticism of FFG, who obviously gave out the one-off-payments, and energy credits, as prelude to being elected.

Now at the beginning of a new term, they have back pedalled and stated that - tax credits and write offs will be their 'preferred method' of easing the burdens that voters face moving forward. But it is as of yet, not implemented.

Developers have always received tax breaks from FFG, i should be pushing an open door on that one. There entire method of dealing with the housing crisis is to 'incentivise' developers toward providing 'affordable' and 'social' homes. The terms affordable and social tend to be fudged deliberately, so as to disguise the lack of social housing in this country.

I dont want to put words in your mouth - i think you are taking exception to my use of the terms 'very high wage' in relation to earnings - would that be fair?

High wage earners will benefit from tax breaks, if it matters to them at all, and someone else pointed out that the credit is only applicable to their lower bracket Income-tax payments. If we accept this, then I would argue that such a measure is not 'targetted'; someone on a 'very high wage' will not be suffering in any way to speak of, when it comes to cost of living.

As for middle income earners, they probably do benefit the most - we could argue though, that while suffering more than the above, they are more comfortable than those below.

Those on low wages (who therefore pay less tax, while suffering more from cost of living increases) - will proportionately see very little improvement to their situations. I dont view any of these measures as 'targetted'

I never even mentioned those who are unemployed, or on disability - they dont pay tax, and therefore their only 'increase' toward the cost of living crisis - is 12 euro a week.

Another source of disagreement between us, may be that I led one to believe the measures were already in place. They arent, i acknowledge this. It was part of a long form discussion between myself and several other posters, on whether or not to consider FFG as centre, versus centre right - and on the nature of the political landscape in ireland. It wasnt my intention to get snippy, and i acknowledged many times that its probably OFF TOPIC for this thread. It was a general discussion though, and i should have been clearer.

Happy to discuss @8-10 - i hope i clarified in way that you felt was fair? Its difficult when im chatting to multiple people. Yesterday was bizarre because I was shifting between criticizing CC for being FAR LEFT, and receiving blowback for doing so from Left-Wing posters - but then I ended up in a back and forth on politics in general, and was defending left wing values, while criticizing FFG and the Centre right - i think i could have spoken more clearly in the quote, i acknowledge that.

Seeing Connolly's comments about Clare Daly quoted in the Indo yesterday, confirmed my antipathy towards her.