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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    agreed; but the point I was replying to was that it would be a rough day for the bookies if HH won. Which is not the case. However small the stakes, bookies still prefer an outsider to win over a hot favourite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    agreed; but the point I was replying to was that it would be a rough day for the bookies if HH won, which is not the case. However small the stakes, bookies still prefer an outsider to win over a hot favourite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,891 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Aragh Pauline is a bag of cats and has always been bitter at not being elected in Galway West (same constituency as Connolly). I wouldn't take a blind bit of notice.

    But let's face facts here - Fine Gael did implement a smear campaign. They would even admit that at this point (is the Barrister attack video still online??). There is every right to criticise it. No matter who wins, we will be talking about their tactics for years.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,350 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    That's how it usually works, but with just three candidates - one of whom isn't even technically in the running - it's less important than the usual general election or local election ballot to work your way down. There'll be a maximum of one elimination - presumably Gavin, barring some wild outcome - and redistribution, perhaps not even that if the last poll is somewhat accurate.

    I'd normally give a fair number of preferences on the ballot paper - though usually not the full way down as some candidates don't deserve even a 9th or 10th preference - but today I was happy to just give the one to Connolly as a) I don't think there's any real chance of my vote being redistributed due to the Gavin situation and b) because the other two options were too uninspiring to even justify further preferences. Felt more like a simple referendum vote than an election, honestly (though don't put a tick in the box :P)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Associating Ivan Yates with the HH campaign was a baseless 'smear' and one CC herself participated in.

    Ms Connolly accused Fine Gael of following the advice by former minister Ivan Yates

    Catherine Connolly accuses FG of politics of ‘fear’ and ‘smear’ in latest debate – The Irish Times



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Voted HH.

    Best of a bad lot.

    Hated how the Media have been announcing CC as the winner all day yesterday. Nope, that arrogance doesn't fly with some people.

    Plus, do not agree with CC's stance on our neutrality and her anti-European, very leftist views.

    I'm a fluent Irish speaker, but the way it was used to humiliate HH by Miriam O'Callaghan left a bad taste in my mouth.

    99% of the damn country can't speak Irish, so what!

    HH it was, then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Fully agree. Yesterday's I.T had a big picture of CC meeting voters (and SF grandees) on page 1. And to-day's paper has a trimphmhialist headline worthy of Pravda.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/

    Edit: that was on the live news section when I posted. Now they have changed the ehadline. Slippery bu**ers!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    FG/HH/FF Smear CC about her job - perfectly fine?

    The Media (i.e. nothing to do with CC) call the election, based on very one-sided polls - CC is somehow to blame?

    As for a fluent Irish speaker, instead of saying 99% of the country cannot speak Irish (Which is false by the way), perhaps say 70/80% has a basic level that needs to be encouraged a bit more.

    Also, I think you are missing the point that HH was minister for the Gaeltacht!!! that's the main point, and she promised to improve her Irish and over many years….nothing

    It's like being head of the Chess society and not knowing how to move a pawn!! (or refuse to learn)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,746 ✭✭✭Allinall


    It's like being head of the Chess society and not knowing how to move a pawn!! (or refuse to learn)

    Sarah Keane has just been appointed CEO of Cricket Ireland.

    I doubt if she has ever held a cricket bat, nor will she be practicing at the nets before taking up the position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,908 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    FG employed negative tactics, not a smear campaign. They just made an balls of it because they couldnt actually find anything the public really cared about, certainly nothing that would change the mind of a CC voter. It was desperate, like some FG strategist spent a week looking at cnn/fox and thought they could copy and paste. The strategy was terrible, the execution was worse

    Ask Maurice McCabe what an actual smear campaign is, this isnt one



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    https://cricketireland.ie/news/start-of-a-new-era/

    "Keane brings an extraordinary wealth of experience to Cricket Ireland. She is currently one of the longest-serving and successful CEOs in Irish Sport, having led Swim Ireland since 2004. Under her 21-year tenure, Swim Ireland underwent a remarkable transformation, achieving its best-ever Olympic Games performance in Paris 2024, securing multiple World and European medals, launching a government-backed groundbreaking National Swimming Strategy with a significant focus on infrastructure, and consistently driving increased participation through innovative programmes."

    If she does not know about cricket, Do you think in the next 12 months she will find out as much as possible about cricket, the rules, the equipment, the player welfare etc. etc. or just pawn it off to a Junior Minister (I mean Junior CEO).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,468 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    They did find stuff the public care about. The 'smear' was the fact it wasn't anything that stuck to Connolly and was easily seen through, if polling was anything to go by.

    The chance FG took engaging in 'smear' will either pay off or not pay off in the actual vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    I fully agree with everything you've said. But you're forgetting about two strange phenomenon which always fa tor into an Irish election. Both are illogical, cannot be forecasted and make no sense whatsoever:

    Optics and the underlying Zeitgeist of the population.

    That's the point of my post.

    The Optics surrounding both candidates are terrible, but in the simple minds of the electorate) in a non derogatory manner), CC = Left and HH=Centre, which for many, many people across the country means that they just will not vote for CC.

    Unfortunately, there is a massive anti-immigration sentiment across the entire country, and it is this cohort of people who always get out and vote. That's the danger here for CC. It makes zero sense, but I can guarantee that it will factor into many people's decision. Speaking to people in towns and villages across the country, I have not met one person over the age of 50 who said they'd vote for CC and every person I asked mentioned the fact that CC was too left-wing and that immigration and the effects it was having in rural communities was a factor in their decision.

    Iinteresting that the Irish Times have changed their headline online this morning. A tad hasty in their predictions yesterday maybe?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Grey123


    I would argue that the opposite is also true. Many on the centre left will vote CC even if their views don’t align. They maybe pro Europe. For others it’s government vs non government. So anyone not happy with the government may vote CC. You don’t have to worry about her proposed tax changes like in a general election. FG also don’t benefit from the “I don’t like FFG but the local guy is alright “ vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,489 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Just back from voting now (CC if anyone was wondering). I was surprised at how busy it was. I'm not going to say it was busy busy, but there was a decent number of people coming out as I went in, a decent number in the station while there and more coming in as I was leaving. Now there are 10 polling booths in the 1 place so that'll make it look busier anyway, but still.

    It was nice having such a short polling slip for once…



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    They just made an balls of it because they couldnt actually find anything the public really cared about

    It is exceptionally difficult to know what the public will choose to care about and when. They chose to punish Daly and Wallace for some similar transgressions.

    Let's not pretend that the next GE won't be a negative campaign about how **** everything is from everyone who supports Connolly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Overly simplistic, Daly in particular would arguably still be an MEP if BS hadn't stood, but there is indeed an irony in some on the left championing CC who were far more reticent with the two former MEPs not least the LP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,891 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Let's not forget that a vote for Humphreys is a vote for Harris, Healy-Rae, Lowry, Martin etc

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭Windowsnut


    neither candidate is suitable- looks like I’m going to spoil my vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Once again, thanks for confirming my view that CC is anti-EU, pro-Brexit and anti-American.

    You keep smearing me with Trump - now you pretend it's because I referred to "America's defence of Europe against Putin" and you say that means Trump. Of course anyone who isn't blinded by ideology would know that Trump is the first President to question America's commitment to Europe's defence. As with Brexit, CC is closer to Trump than she or her comrades could ever admit to themselves.

    It's rich being accused by you of "lazy sloganeering"🤣

    Now that you accuse me of "running away", here's another set of disqualifying facts about CC.

    • She hired an unrepentant anti-GFA gangster as her Parliamentary Assistant.
    • She thinks Hamas are "part of the fabric of the Palestinian people" (the horrifying part is that recent mass executions in broad daylight support her assessment).
    • She can't explain what brought her to Syria while the dictator was massacring his own people. "Fact finding"😪. The media bought her line that Micheál had done the same - that's how dumb they are!

    So much for her "peace" shtick.

    It's true that the Irish people voted against both Nice and Lisbon Treaties only to reverse themselves and then forget what the Treaties were all about (except of course for CC and her ilk who think we were "bullied" into renouncing some deeply held objections about things that never happened - "privatisation!")

    We will elect CC President today and spend the next 7 (or 14!) years wondering why, just like Nice and Lisbon. The answer in all three cases is - the failures of our political leaders. Incredibly, Bob Geldof is right when he says he would have "walked it".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,652 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    MM met the same dictator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Jesus, that's a good one! Let's not forget that people have a mind of their own. A vote for HH is apparently a anti Catholic, supportive of the oo and is an endorsement if the current govt depending on who trys to put their opinion in your head.

    PS, apparently rural pursuits too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭almostover


    No it's not, it's a vote for Heather Humphreys for president. In the same vein a vote for Catherine Connolly is a vote for her as president and not a vote against the current government. Putting either candidate in the Áras won't change one thing about the composition of the government in the Dáil, the presidency is a ceremonial role at best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Completely irrelevant ex-politician tries to remind voters that she still exists? She left it a bit late to get coverage. That "Far Right" rubbish is the go-to smear of politicians and their cronies who have no real argument and want to dismiss the legitimacy of their opponent's concerns.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,013 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Effort? He didn't have enough support to force a contest, so there was no way he was going to win the contest. After McGuinness withdrew, nobody came forward apart from him and HH, so what else could they do? Go the GAA celebrity route? 😯

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    How many votes did Kelly get in the 2024 Euros? How many votes did Humphreys get in the 2020 GE? Elections are about getting votes to get candidates elected. Has FG (or rather the people who run it now) forgotten this important point?

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Caquas


    Amazingly, this level of analysis is why CC got away with her trip to Syria while Assad was massacring his own people.

    Now sit down in a darkened room and try to think of any distinction between these two visits. If you see none, are you an Irish journalist?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,973 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Don't forget Ming !

    He was with her yesterday 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I saw the same, will be interested in what the numbers show.

    Second point is that I didn't see anyone under 40 voting.

    I voted at 9 a.m. this morning, so expected to see some young people voting before work.

    It could be just because it is a bank holiday weekend and people are heading away later.

    Humphrey's only hope was a very low turnout dominated by those over 50. If the numbers I am seeing are correct, that doesn't look likely. The turnout could enable us to call the election this evening without a ballot box being opened. Anything over 50% turnout should be a win for CC.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Question for Connolly voters. Did you vote for FF/FG in the last election, and is your Presidential vote a change of mind on re-electing the government? Will you follow through on this by voting for the Left next time?



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