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Star trek academy series

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    That's 100% on my to-do list. I did a recent B5 watch through again and it honestly holds up so well in terms of storyline. Amazing example of a show with a plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,210 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Space Above and Beyond for a short but really nice little series too. Firefly is there for another short cracker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    Oh Firefly is absolutely the one. As near to a perfect series as you'll ever find.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Evade


    Kinda falls apart in the end but still worth it.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,419 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    defo watch Battlestar. What a show. Also dare I suggest Terminator, the Sarah Conor chronicles for another short lived excellent show.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 RossNolan


    Space Above and Beyond! I thought I was the only one who remembered that! I watched it as a teen.

    I would caution that it does unfortunately end on a cliffhanger since there was only one season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Evade


    I think that's hard to find these days. I went looking for it the other day and it's not streaming anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭Evade


    It comes up pretty regularly around



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,210 ✭✭✭Inviere




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I did too but, without giving anything away, I know where people are coming from.

    I enjoyed the pivot to more mythical angle from hard Sci-Fi. I mean, it still maintained hard Sci-Fi but definitely pivoted a bit with you-know-who and you-know-what storyline. So I can understand some not liking that pivot.

    I also enjoyed The Sarah Connors Chronicles. Was interesting. I loved Firefly. Was at the preview of Serenity with Sean Maher and Jewel Staite and got a questioned answered in the Q&A. But I haven't watched the series in years. I wonder how it holds up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    It holds up unbelievably well. Still feels like it could be a 2025 show. I watch it a pathological amount of times and it's easily one of the best 'one and done' series ever (unfortunately for all concerned, fans especially).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,273 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I liked the actual finale (of reimagined BSG for those struggling to keep up with Vanilla's post quoting) but the writing did seem to go stale during the third season and there was so much clunky exposition in the fourth season as they tried to undo some of the knots they tied themselves in. Still pretty enjoyable overall but hard not to compare the latter two seasons to the first two which were consistently the tightest, sharpest writing and direction I've seen in a sci-fi show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    Ah, it went a bit squiffy towards the end, but honestly after a rewatch a while ago I still found the finale a blast. It only really let itself down at the last five to ten minutes, and I'll happily overlook that. What a great show!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    It certainly had some balls. Spoiler. REAL SPOILER for those who want to watch. Don't be tempted:

    Having the Cylons find the humans on their new colony, invading and attempting to Win-Their-Hearts-And-Minds ™ only for human suicide bombers be the valiant and heroic resistance. Especially at the time. I'm sure there was more than one viewer in the US thinking "Right on. Blow those guys up….Wait one gosh darn minute…"

    Anyway. Star Trek The Teenage Years, huh? :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,410 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Star Trek: Saved by the Klaxon

    NCC-90210

    After the singing episode in SNW, we're lucky its not Highschool Musical in Space.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,692 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    NCC-90210.

    You should be ashamed of yourself (Or I should be ashamed of myself for not thinking about that one)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,410 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    "To boldly go where no teenager has gone before(Except Wesley Crusher)"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,410 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Ive recently been watching Disco(dont judge me!), and actually, the first 2 seasons aren't that bad. The season 2 finale I really enjoyed with Disco preparing to fight off the Section 31 fleet, and then the Klingons arrive to aid Disco, I found it quite rousing and really enjoyed that episode.

    From Season 3, there is a marked degradation in quality though.

    I read an article on, I think ScreenRant, which made the point that perhaps setting ST Academy so far into the future is a mistake because it is not the usual small incremental improvement/upgrade we are used to. Instead, by setting it so far into the future (900 years), it gives them few places to go, less problems to solve, less to discover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,273 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Yeah Disco definitely followed a "started controversial but decent but got progressively worse" path. I loved the first season for the most part. Opening two parter was terrible but then Jason Isaacs joined and lifted the show big time. Even the mirror universe episodes which were the start of the rot I found fun it a camp, cheesy Flash Gordon sort of way. Season 2 started great too with the introduction of Pike and some quite decent episodic stuff. The Section 31 and Control stuff did get way too silly though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,988 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I sometimes think I like early Disco but when I rewatch the amount that everything revolves around Burnham is even worse than I remember and ruins it. Her mother being the Red Angel was the point I gave up on Disco. If it wasn't for lockdown I wouldn't have seen any more after that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,410 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Oh it absolutely could be called Star Trek: Michael Burnham, she is so centric to it all. You could argue that Jean Luc Picard had less of a central role in ST Picard than Burnham has in Disco, which is frankly bizarre.

    Making her the "never heard of before,secret step sister of Spock" annoyed alot of people - unsurprisingly.

    SNW got the balance right(in the first 2 seasons anyway), where you would have a La'an centric episode and then the next one would be Uhura based.

    Post edited by LambshankRedemption on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,177 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Some early episodes were alright. Like that one where Mudd keeps resetting the day.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,988 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I loved that episode until I rewatched it and realised Mudd had won and gave it all up because Burnham was worth more that sporedrive tech.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,615 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,988 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    He had the ship under his power. He gambles it to bring Burnham back to life to capture her. It's totally stupid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,615 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,410 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    My favourite Disco episode by far. Ive rewatched it a few times as a one off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    So i watched the above two trailers -

    Been reading some of the comments here, and indeed on each video. Certainly a lot of hate being directed at this show, both trailers seem to be ratio-ed quite substantially

    In terms of what we see, there is a lot of fan bate. 'The fate Of Benjamin Sisko', obviously voyagers Doctor, a JemHadar instructor at the academy. No real idea of what the main plot will be, or if it will take on a more episodic based stories.

    I will probably watch this series after it finishes airing, and take the comments of fans on this thread, as an indication of how good (or bad) it is. There was a time, when i would be first in line to watch any new Star Trek, but those days are over. The Disaster that was Disco, the dissapointment of Picard, and the hit and miss of recent SNW; im not filled with enthusiasm.

    I still havent watched Section 31, which remains the only Trek i havent even speed watched through. I could only just tolerate fast forwarding through Disco season 5, and i saw enough to know it was trash. I just cant bring myself to watch Section 31, having read the comments and reviews. So as a trekkie, I am now capable of saying, 'thanks but no thanks' to elements of the franchise.

    I think I am roughly expecting this series to be more Discovery-like, and therefore it wont be my cup of tea. If it turns out different, and people sing its praises, il gladly enjoy binging it after the season finale. Im never enthusiastic about fan bait, and the inclusion here reeks of desperation. We would all love to see Siskos story tied up, but i doubt we will get that. Is there going to be any explanation of a seemingly female Jem Hadar working for Starfleet, with no Katracel White? The only person i cannot help be interested in, is the Doctor, and for obvious reasons. But if this turns out to be trash, I will loath his involvement with it. NuTrek (excluding SNW) seems destined to continually bait us into being enthusiastic. One wonders if anyone really considers Discovery: Unification III, to be the third part of the original Unification TNG episode. I certainly dont, i recently watch TNG Unification, and the brief reminder i had about Disco only served to annoy me.

    I will be more interested to see if they bring out a new show, after the finale of SNW. Will we get something from the lost generation (between Undiscovered country, and TNG)? Perhaps we get a Sevin of Nine mini series. Something else from TNG or even the SNW time-periods would interest me more. I hate the Disoc era federation, i have literally no interest in it. And I loathed 'the burn' as a concept. Writers clearly felt they must destroy the Federation so that Michael Burnham could rescue it. Which was deplorable to me.

    Anyway, interested to hear what people think. Im not optimistic, but we will just have to wait and see.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,410 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I just watched the two trailers and will let another scifi franchise describe how I feel:

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    Robert Picardo as the EMH is looking very old. Why would you have a hologram who looks very old? You can understand his age when he was in Voyager, as the EMH appearing mature might put patients at ease. But why would you have an EMH that looks ready for retirement? The actor is 72, so 7 years past retirement age.

    It's a nice throw back to have him appear, but from a "in ST universe" point of view, why would you have an EMH who looks ancient??

    The only good thing I can say about both trailers was the appearance of Tilly. (She's my "Someone unusual you fancy")

    I will watch it when it comes out, and approach it with an open mind, but Im getting strong Disco vibes off of it, NOT SNW vibes, and that alone is cause for concern. Im struggling to finish Season 3 of Disco at the moment. As I said a few days ago, if you ignore the retconning they did of the Klingons, Season 1 wasn't that bad, but it gets progressively worse.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,892 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    For Robert Picardo… I mean, because he's a real human actor, and it's probably better - both for budget and performance - to just have him on as he is rather than having to CG/AI de-age every single thing he does. He's not just any EMH, he's apparrantly the actual character from Voyager who went and got a starfleet commission after etc, so I think they can just hand-wave the age thing easily enough… he chose to age a bit to better represent his centuries of experiences and how he felt, or whatever.

    And on balance I'd say having an older Robert Picardo, with a line or two of jiggery pokery to explain how he looks, is better than not having Robert Picardo.

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