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General sheep thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,054 ✭✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Resistance is an issue now for most of these meds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,668 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    never had any problem here,

    The condition of the sheep has a bearing on how well it works. as they have to build immunity themselves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    W.ould that mean that it wouldnt be as effective for bought in sheep. Biggest problem is the four week gap between the two injections. Vet said not to give it less than the four weeks .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,668 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    They would have some immunity after four weeks from the first, but it doesnt last , It needs to be built on by the second injection, I've never had any problem and I'd venture to say you'd have good immunity from week 3 after the first injection.

    We'd have had problems where a couple lambs died and 2 -3 weeks after first injection there'd be no more, It was always an pnuemonia problem here. Maybe others here would have found different



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Joesa


    Hi all, anyone have any thoughts on valaise blacknose sheep.

    Was passing a farm the other day and seen a few of them in a paddock. They seem a big framed animal. Would they make a good cross with a Lanark/horned ewe.

    I know they were going crazy money as pets. But apart from being overpriced, is there any pros/cons to them as a breed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Young95


    hi folks , question for yea,

    I bought a ram back in September for sis scheme which I was told by breeder he was sis eligible, but when I look up the ram on Sheep Ireland ram search on today’s date it says ineligible but he was eligible a month earlier according to ram search .

    Am I okay still scheme wise for this action?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Was he eligible the day you bought him, if so you're covered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Young95


    when I put in the date on dispatch docket into ram search it says sis eligible yes , but today’s date it says sis eligible no . I am okay so ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Yes you're okay, stars can change and so the terms are the ram needs to be eligible on the date of purchase.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Young95




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,356 ✭✭✭razor8


    a few lads are been caught with rams that are shown eligible for SIS on sheep Ireland but turn out they are only eligible for a hill flock. why they haven't made that clearer on the website i don't know

    should be a different colour for Lowland SIS and Hill Flocks SIS.

    Some hill flocks rams are showing eligible but only 2 or 1 star terminal or replacements



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Young95


    I was talking to department earlier and they said there’s massive confusion with the star ratings as there always changing from in and out of eligibility on system ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    They are useless. All wool.... be better off putting a goat across your ewes 😅😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Joesa


    I was dragging a few lambs for the factory this morning.

    Seen what looks like tape worms in their dung.

    Lambs are dirty, but in good form. I done a FEC last week and worms came back at 240. No trace of cocci.

    Pic of dung attached.

    Should I dose them??

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    That looks like maggots?. Was it on the wool stuck to them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Joesa


    I thought it was maggots myself at first but it wasn't. They were more tapey looking than maggot looking.

    Actually had a fly strike on lambs during the week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sami23


    What way are Lambs sold in Ennis - watching a bit of it today and the Auctioneer doesn't appear to be walking along the platform as they are being sold so are they all sold online or what's the story there ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,668 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    It doesn't look like tapeworms, Tapeworms are flat, they're round. experts say that tapeworms don't do any harm but Id always dose them with a white dose if I saw them. If you dose your dog regularily you wont have tapeworms



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Joesa


    Whatever they were, they aren't doing any harm. That was off a lamb I was dagging to go to the factory. He killed out 22.1kgs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sami23




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭k mac


    Bought hoggets that were not on the heptavac. Putting them to the ram in just over 2 weeks. Is it too late to give them there first injection now, a bit confused i know they say you give the 2nd 2ml dose 4 to 6 weeks pre lambing, but do they have to be vaccinated a certain amount of time before breeding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,668 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    You shouldn't leave any more than 6 weeks between injections, you'll get poor immunity.

    The pre lambing injection needs 4 -6 weeks to get the immunity into the milk. It doesn't matter when you inject them around breeding



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,393 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Odd set up there but it's working well, auctioneer in 1 of the rings, most bids are on line with buyers in the passage way on their phones. If you are not set up on line you can pick the lots you want to bid on and proceed to the ring and the auctioneer will take your bids there. lot number weight etc is displayed on screen

    I have also seen fellows buying for friends online, and then sorting out in the office afterwards. the movement will not not be done until payment etc is sorted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Christ that is an odd way of selling.

    Why the hell is the auctioneer not out where the lambs are like all other marts ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,393 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    They done that for the breeder show sale & it worked well, maybe the other way cuts out some of the crap that goes on between agents. 1 of the main lamb buyers there is also one of the auctioneers for the cattle sales.

    Ennis have taken a lot of sheep from Gort mart in the last couple of years, and also to a lesser degree from Roscrea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Joesa


    What's the best nut to give ram lambs that are being kept on for breeding.

    Currently giving them a handful of intensive lamb pellet.

    I was reading in the beef page, that young bulls shouldn't be getting a finishing ration. As it's low in protein, and protein is needed for growth of the bull.

    Would I be better of feeding them a high protein sheep nut??? Or getting a bag of soya.

    I bought 2 ram lambs this year. 1 Cheviot and 1 belclare. Cheviot is running with 20 hoggets at the moment as I'm short rams.

    Belclare will be run with a few ewe lambs in a fortnight

    Again thanks in advance for any replies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Joesa


    Similar question about replacement ewe lambs. Currently getting intensive lamb nut. Should they be getting something with more protein in it??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,668 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    14 or 15% ration is good enough in both cases, but don't give ram lambs a ration with magnesium in it or you'll kill them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Young95


    would it be okay to plunge dip ewes 7 or 8 weeks post ram turn out ? Letting rams out this weekend but with weather being wet it’s been an issue to get dipper man in to dip ewes . So might let rams run with them couple of weeks then do them. Anyone done this before ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭Country lad


    i see where the goverment is cutting the sheep payment by 1.50 per ewe when in budget they said they would.nt.if they done that to dole payments they be a uproar they should.nt able to change their minds



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