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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭MFPM


    You're clearly frustrated that such a 'rabble' is seemingly winning this position, I appreciate your honesty in openly admitting that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,567 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yes indeed - so prove your nonsense claim CC is “the most presidential person in the Dail” - given this is politics forum that’s not an unreasonable request - there is no onus on anyone to disprove it - it’s your statement .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭MFPM


    You don't support her because you fundamentally disagree with her politically, whether her judgement is right ir wrong it would matter not to you and others here.

    They're lying because there has been no evidence of a momentum behind HH, indeed Harris spoke some of that nonsense before the IT poll...

    The very fact that there's increased coordination between FF and FG reflects the lack of momentum behind HH....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,993 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    OK, I take your point. Last few days now, boasts will be made, lies, maybe, hopes certainly. But fair comment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    So you agree that this election is turning into a rejection of FFG? I never mentioned the next government. FFG on 35% is a problem. The only reason that FFG is in government is because of that grotty deal with Lowry. FF's candidate dropped out. FG's initial candidate dropped out and was replaced by the equivalent of FG's Kamala Harris. Do you think that Humphreys can still win?

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    You love circular "arguments" that go nowhere. There are 174 members in the Dail. All I ask is that you name one that is better and you win. Just one. I named mine already. Btw, I thought you had run away from this argument?

    Just one.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I have to agree with you, it is nothing more than fawning nonsense.

    Over the last few days, Connolly has been cancelling media interviews and on Saturday banned the media from her campaign. Her intellectual and oratorical skills don’t seem to be able to cope with the minimum of scrutiny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,993 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    But there is an agreement and FF/FG are in govt! Grubby or not. There was a chance of a great left alliance, but it didn't even come close to being a govt, not even close! The future might be different, who knows, but this presidential race is an agreement by the left of only one thing, a candidate. Nothing in comparison to a pfg. Connolly wouldn't be in agreement with all the party's that support her even.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Your own post sets out the reasons why this election is not a general rejection of FF and FG.

    Candidate selection issues make this a unique situation. Whatever vote Humphreys gets should be considered in that context.

    As for FF and FG being in government because of a “grotty” deal with Lowry, the reason they are in government is because SF lost 100k votes in the last election and appear to be congenitally unable to deal with any other party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    There was an interesting comment from an Indo journalist on the Indo's politics podcast discussing the election campaign that the parties who backed Connolly could end up becoming more like a potential government in waiting due to cooperating and finding things in common. A combined Left emerging from this election is a very dangerous thing for FFG. The 35% historic low may be due in part to the presidential election. Whether FFG recovers is a question for a different thread.

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Indeed, I mean it's not like she's participated in countless debates, subjected to far more scrutiny than any candidate and been in the race longest.

    The guy you fawned over and threw your weight behind ran away after one effing story! The great military man folded after 10 days!!

    You really are struggling with this election aren't you!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,567 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Indeed- and considering some people are drawing inferences from this election to future elections and that the left will “rise up”- it’s more likely Labour will be in government with FF/FG having stolen SF’s thunder from this presidential election



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,875 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    the reason this government are back in power is very simple, they bought the election with giveaways last year that are gone missing this year. the polls for this election are a true reflection of the **** show the country is being made of. the large vote for Catherine Connolly is basically anyone but ff,fg. I don't think it matters who ff,fg ran as everyone knows know they are 2 cheeks of the same arse. people are at last starting to see through the charade. Catherine Connolly could be best mates with Putin and would still walk it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,567 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “Do you think that Humphreys can still win?”

    Simple math will say no to that question - but I never said this is a rejection of the FFFG government - that’s your words not mine .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Is this today's smear? 😂

    I would have said she is doing too many interviews. It must be exhausting. On Friday before 11am, she had done 3 (Morning Ireland, Radio Kerry, Radio na Gaeltacht).

    Does your "last few days" cover that? As usual you are floundering on lemons. At least be honest in your posts.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Matt Cooper said in the podcast that Humphreys won't give him a date for their TodayFM interview. Anyone know why?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Just watching the panel discussion on TWIP. No FG rep and just Mary Butler from FFG. Butler pathetically trying to raise the Eirigi thing again. Seems that FG want to focus on Connolly's work as a barrister.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yeah it was pathetic. They are now trawling through her Barrister cases looking for a smear. It's beyond pathetic. FFG don't realise how damaging this looks. The electorate are not stupid. Pure control freak stuff.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭pureza


    Is the country such a hole?

    Nearly half the 16 k in emergency accommodation are non nationals and we’ve still 10’s of 1000’s of Ukrainians living here in rental accommodation but shush…no one must mention that strain on our rents market lest it be found out as an immovable causation

    We must also talk about the big move to Australia where there’s a housing shortage as big relatively as ours and prices through the roof but never talk about those that return in big numbers as hey ho Irelands a hole


    The reason this government is back in power is frankly there was no alternative and a majority of people don’t think Ireland is a hole



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭liamtech


    I'll clarify my position on Humphreys by saying she has demonstrated an inability to compete in a national election. She was never going to be as competitive as McGuinness. I think though, that people anticipated Humphreys as being well able to stand up to, and compete with other candidates. And this has not materialized. But we can see why certain people would have expected more, she has a decent political CV. Time in government as a minister, and a political career going back to the early noughties. She should be performaing far better than she is.

    • Her campaign in general has been poor. I would imagine she has a team of experienced advisors, but they can only do so much. Her campaign media appearences have been parodied, as opposed to achieving traction with the electorate.
    • In the early debates she was low key, which is when I began referring to her as a non-entity. In the first 2 debates she was a third tier talking point, behind how well Connolly communicates, and how horrendous Gavin performed.
    • In head to heads with Connolly, she has slipped up numerous times, and failed to make a serious impact on Connolly. The attack lines are obvious, in terms of CC's history of opposing the EU, her comments on Germany, the US - plenty of talking points for Humphreys to get stuck into. But her criticisms are unpolished, and she just lacks the sharpness needed to knock Connolly back, and make her own voice heard. Obvious situations like CC's opinions on 'European Militarization, and Military Industrial Complex' - Humphreys comes off as quite amateurish when she attacks these positions, and sounds more like a complaining constituent, as opposed to a Presidential Candidate
    • She has suffered a few unforced errors. I dont know what the hell she was thinking bringing up the Murphy/Burton fiasco, it was embarassing. I suspect she ad-libbed that one, as I doubt anyone politically skilled would have encouraged bringing this up. If anything it reminds the public of the Austerity years, when HH was in Government and damaging societal supports at a time of real hardship.

    I just dont think Humphreys is good enough as a candidate. She may well make a good President, and iv been vocal in my opinion, that she would be better than Connolly for the job. Iv been clear on why i think this, and i stand by my many criticisms of CC. I dont think either of these candidates are very good to be honest. But of the two we have, Connolly is deservedly first place, she communicates her message, and engages with the public. Most of the discussion around the election centers on Connolly, with Humphreys being a distant second.

    Thats my opinion anyway

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    "likely 6 in the coming days with Independent Ireland"

    Really? Have they implied such?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    What was even more surprising was that FG hadn't a rep on the panel. Lawlor was out of her depth with David Cullinane. FG to smear a barrister when its housing policies have resulted in 16,000 people homeless is absolutely ridiculous.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Did you hear McEntee on Radio 1 just now? It's the start of Smear Week for sure!

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭jmcc


    She was mentioned on TWIP bt I didn't hear her. If they have to roll out McEntee, things must be much worse for Humphreys than people realise.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭MFPM


    RTE giving McEntee a platform to attack CC, Sunday Indo today giving HH opportunity to attack CC. On and on it goes....'The centre must hold'....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Im possibly going to concede here, that if this is in relation to CC and repossessions during the financial crash -Yes, that is a smear.

    Where we will disagree no doubt, is that i think many talking points have been wrongly described as smears. Eirigi, Rapist/Aras, the Syria Trip, and CC's positioning on the EU - all of these are fair game topics in my opinion.

    But if McEntee is trying to bring up CC's role as a barrister, and possible housing repossessions at this point - YES, 100% that is smear - its unwelcome, unwarranted, and will likely be counter-productive - without hessitation i admit that

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yep it was her barrister record and representing banks. They will be vulture funds by tomorrow 😉

    By Tuesday she will be burning thatched roofs to get people out of their homes...

    The RTE bailout gave McEntee 10 mins on her own to attack Connolly. Disgusting by FG.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,398 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Mary Regan on RTE making the point that whole swathes of the population have been left unrepresented in this election : the centre left for example and 'the right'. That is totally on FFG : they almost gleefully blocked off the Oireachtas and Councils path with their whip system. It has blown up in their faces though, with support in particular for FF and Martin well down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,588 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I mean she had Enoch cheering her on yesterday so she is in esteemed company.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭MFPM


    It's the fact that a government minister is brought on to ostensibly discuss teachers and then is invited to unload on CC, 5 days out from an election.

    One of the opposition spokespeople on education could have been invited in on the teacher issue and had a chance to reply to McEntee's attack but they weren't and that is the issue here and it's part of the same media campaign that you've consistently attempted to playdown and dismiss.



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