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Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,120 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Noticed the standing charge for smart plans are much lower than non-smart. I'm currently paying €354pa but the cheaper smart plans range €219 - €270 😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Escapees


    I think that's the idea, in that ESB Networks no longer require a meter reader to go out to the property to take readings and this lowers the operating costs for that property.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,120 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    That is not it. The meter may be smart sending data to ESBN, but the customer may not have switched to a smart plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Escapees


    Good point, though that's what I heard when smart meters first came out. Maybe the overall cost saving is being passed by the providers solely onto smart plan customers for now?...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,145 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No. I'm not on a smart plan and in fact Flogas got a bit snarky with me for even trying to submit a reading from my smart meter (I was trying to trigger a bill to be sent). Meter hasn't been read since it went 'smart'.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    My smart meter is not activated but it is definitely not read in person. That makes no sense since you can still access all the smart usage data on the ESB site even if not activated. Why would they be reading meters manually when they have all the data available to them automatically?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,698 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    still taking readings to with the below.

    Meter connectivity refers to ESB Networks’ ability to connect with your meter and get your electricity usage data from the meter. Meter connectivity levels depend on how many days in a rolling 30-day period ESB networks can retrieve data from your meter. The higher the number of days your meter can be read remotely in a month, the higher your meter connectivity will be. If you have high connectivity your connection can support both Interval (30 minute) Smart Services or Non-Interval (Bi-Monthly) Smart Services but if you have low connectivity, your connection will only support non-interval services.

    If your meter connectivity is 1: ESB networks will not be able to connect with your smart meter remotely and will continue to read your meter manually. In such scenario, you won’t be able to opt-in for Interval (30 minute) Smart Services.

    If your meter connectivity is 2: ESB networks will be able to connect with your smart meter but not reliably. In such scenario, you won’t be able to opt-in for Interval (30 minute) Smart Services.

    If your meter connectivity is 3: ESB networks will be able to connect with your smart meter reliably enough. In such scenario, you will be able to opt-in for Interval (30 minute) Smart Services.

    If your meter connectivity is 4: ESB networks will have full connectivity with your smart meter, you will be able to opt-in for Interval (30 minute) Smart Services.

    https://www.sseairtricity.com/ie/home/help-centre/smart-metering/what-does-meter-connectivity-mean



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 884 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    Mine was the same with my previous provider & the meter was read automatically.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    So is this just a WiFi problem in some areas? And would it remain an issue even if smart meter activated?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,288 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    I thought the roll out was to stop the need for manual readings all together, once ours was installed there was nobody coming to read the meter after that

    The internet isn’t for everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,698 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    yeah, they've a 2g SIM card in them running on the three network. just like having a bad signal on your phone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,120 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    The point is that those with unactivated meters are paying e100+ extra SC per annum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    I just switched to Flogas standard 24h plan with a €275 standing charge for my unactivated meter. The smart plans have €270 standing charge. So it's not all companies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,120 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    I'm with Flogas, unactivated D/N with €220 cashback ten months ago, the SC was ~€325 and is now €354.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,698 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    think it's only the boggers it effects

    actually it's the day night meters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    I've never activated my smart meter. I was with Flogas for a year after I got it and always had bills sent after the meter was remotely read.

    I moved to Airtricity then who insisted the meter could not be read remotely and I had to send in meter readings every month.

    Back to Flogas now and they can read the meter remotely.

    Must be a facility some companier offer and others do not.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    ESBN send them a meter read every two months as if it was read in person.

    If you arent being billed monthly I'd just ignore it, part of a legacy system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    No difference showing for standing charge EI smartplan and non smart plan for me - both 250 euro



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,288 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    my bill comes monthly from flow gas since I joined them 18 months ago, I didn’t like it at first as I was used to bi monthly but now i prefer it and it’s dropping the last few months which is better

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭bigboss1986


    Hi lads.I switched to Flogas 11 days ago and only email I got was generic email from them.Still havent got account number etc.

    Does it usually takes that long to get more info from them?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,288 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    yes, I got my account number ect when my first bill arrived and then I was able to set up my online portal

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Bigserious1


    I was the same. Applied around the 8th. I received a letter in the post in the last few days to confirm the direct debit details. So seems like the switch is still processing just pretty slowly. They must have a backlog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,288 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    this is how flogas are all the time, communication is slow and at times non existent

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    I filled out the online form to switch on the 9th and got the generic email, then a letter with account number and confirming bank details for DD arrived by post on Friday 17th. I used that account number to sign up for the online portal and that resulted in an email saying they would process my request for online billing within 10 days, and once I receive my first bill I will then have access to online. It's like something out of the dark ages tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭Moving2017


    I’ve just left them. Almost every contact for the year including the notification that the contract was up shortly was by letter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    I initiated a switch to FloGas on 6th Oct & received an email from them on the same date advising that my welcome letter & account details would be sent to me via email within 14 days. A pdf file attached to the email contained the plan details I was signing up to. I received a letter re my direct debit in the post on Fri 17th.

    I was switching from Energia (breaking contract due to their price increases). I received a call from Energia offering me a new 12 month contract @ 33% discount plus €150 sign on credit. It was an attractive offer but I still switched to Flogas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭LizardKing


    i switched from SSE to EI circa 12th Sep , ended up being charged incorrectly 100 early term fee by SSE , had to ring to resolve that. They re-issued bill and i had approx 198 in credit (due to solar). I was not waiting for the refund as i expected some more CEG payment to be added to the credit. They automatically refunded me the credit yesterday.

    I will see if I get any CEG payment credit now , I think it mentions they may send a cheque but not sure??

    Anyone have similar situation when switching?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Enrico Palazzo


    I switched to Flogas through bonkers and have received no welcome email from Flogas. Several days later I got a debit confirmation letter from them, which had my new account number on it, so I used that to register on flogas.ie. That triggered their first email to me stating that they would process the registration in 10 working days(!), but when I checked a few hours later the account was already fully activated. Again, no email to confirm any of that. So the communication from Flogas was far from optimal, but the switch itself was completed timely, as confirmed by the closing bill from my previous provider.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭podge3


    I moved to Energia only a few months ago on the 41% discount Axa tariff. Energypal tells me the fixed Flogas rate is now about €100 in my favour over the next 12 months so I'm moving and I'll be €50 better off after the termination fee.

    I normally wouldn't bother for €50 but I'm a bit pissed at Energia for increasing prices.

    The Flogas BWG tariff is no longer at the races, the ordinary fixed rate is now cheaper. Although as we now know, the Flogas "fixed" rates are not actually fixed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Metalpanic


    Spoke to Energia Retention Team yesterday. They are offering the following to existing customers,

    EV Smart Drive (4 hour window)

    Day: 0.3793

    EV: 0.089

    Cashback: €50 

     

    Smart Data (9 hour night window)

    Day: 0.2949

    Peak: 0.3312

    Night: 0.1621

    Cashback: €150

    (VAT included, FIT 18.5c, standing charge €265.01.)



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