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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,433 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    An open draw for the Senior Hurling County Champions could work and stop the 'Galway champs advantage'

    Won't happen though with the Provincial councils etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭C4000


    Na Fianna vs Lucan Sarsfields in the Dublin hurling final.

    Lucan looked to have their semi against Ballyboden sown up before half time as they led 0-16 to 0-4. Ballyboden stormed back into it to bring the gap down to one, but a penalty gave Lucan breathing space and they held on to win 1-21 to 1-17.

    Ben Coffey the main scoring threat for Lucan and good performances from John Bellew, Chris Crummey and Colm Walsh. Massimo Pappalardo also catching the eye playing a Barry Nash type role at corner back.

    Na Fianna v Kilmacud have produced classics in the last few years, but it didn't transpire today. Nip and tuck for 40 mins or so, but Na Fianna, who came in as underdogs, put the foot down. 2 quick goals from AJ Murphy and Brian Ryan put them in complete control and they won by 11 for a finish. Murphy, Ryan, Donal Burke and Rushe the outstanding players. Kilmacud making some strange substitutions with Oisin O Rourke and Ronan Hayes taken off.

    Na Fianna will be long odds on for the final and couldn't see them beaten after today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,449 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Irish Times county championship round-up

    It is a fascinating few weeks reading about all the narratives and stories of places you have probably never heard of or have fleeting associations with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Na fianna underdogs? do some people reckon the All Ireland win was lucky?

    Nemo Rangers and St Finbarrs into the Cork football final



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭C4000


    It was a strange one. They were 7/4 to win today.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,158 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    the toughest game in the whole run last year was arguably against Kilmacud, a last minute goal won it for NaF - there had been nothing between the teams; and they've had some serious battles the past few years.

    And then Na Fianna had injuries coming into it, and had been brought to extra time by Cuala.

    The Cuala game probably stood to Na Fianna though, as KC hadnt a really tough match arguably since the county final last year.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,811 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Ratoath's third attempt at a football and hurling senior double fell at the first hurdle yesterday, Summerhill beating them 0-16 to 0-13. Summerhill were 15 points to 6 up with 10 minutes to go before Ratoath decided to start playing and got it back to 15 - 13 with 2 minutes to go but couldn't get possession from the resulting kickout to get another two-pointer and Summerhill closed it out. Ratoath's hurlers are going for two in a row against Kiltale next Sunday.

    Kilbride, who won 5 Meath Senior titles in the 1960s/70s with the famous Quinn brothers in the team, are back at senior level after winning the IFC final, beating a heavily fancied Castletown side. Kilbride lost a Junior B final only 6 years ago so it's been a meteoric rise for them. They're now operating at a higher level than the likes of Navan O'Mahonys, Duleek, St. Pats Stamullen, Walterstown etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,158 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Kilbride is a tiny village, not sure how big the wider catchment is but fair play to them - that is some going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    The size of a village means little. A club near me has 2 small villages but actual size of the parish is huge. Have enough numbers for 4 adult teams.

    Then there's a small town at the other end of the county who are struggling badly with fielding at underage.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,811 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    The wider catchment wouldn't be huge, though I think they have gotten some juvenile players from the Hollystown/Tyrellstown area of Dublin who would have gone to school there. In Meath, they're surrounded by three massive towns in Dunboyne, Ratoath and Ashbourne.

    They've put massive amounts of work into underage teams over the last 20 years. When I was playing underage in the late 90s/early 2000s, they literally had one adult team and no underage teams. Their best younger players would play with one of Dunboyne, Ratoath or Donaghmore/Ashbourne (whose pitch at the time was just a two minute drive from Kilbride itself). A number would have gone to St. Margaret's in Dublin as well.

    Probably in the mid 2000s their U10s/U12s started making lower division finals and then, shortly afterwards, started winning them. They had some excellent minor teams about 10 years ago and were competing with (and beating) the likes of Navan O'Mahonys and Donaghmore/Ashbourne. They did benefit (so to speak) from the restructure of Meath football in 2020 when it was decided that only first teams would compete in the main football championships. They lost the 2019 Junior B final to Ratoath's second team (having lost to Kells' second team in the 2017 final) but were brought up to Junior A as a result of the restructure. That gave them scope to develop at Junior A without having to deal with big clubs' second teams. They won Junior A convincingly in 2023 before Saturday's Intermediate win.

    Thing is, Kilbride itself isn't a parish, it's part of Dunboyne parish. And, as mentioned above, they'd be very close to Ashbourne, Dunboyne and Ratoath whose clubs would be much, much bigger. Their success in the 60s/70s was a perfect storm of exceptionally talented players growing up together and reaching their peak at the same time. I think Kilbride had 6 players in the Meath squad that won the 1967 All Ireland. The won the Junior championship in 1960, the Intermediate in 1962 and their first senior championship in 1964. From 64-71, they were in 7 of the 8 senior finals. They won 5 of those, lost one in a second replay and were disqualified from the other final as one of the Quinn brothers sat on the ball and refused to leave the field after a red card. After their 1971 win, they only reached the knockout stages once more and were relegated to Intermediate in 1978 and then to Junior in 1983. Their 1971 senior title was their last adult title until they won the 2023 Junior title.

    Summerhill, who won the senior, would be a relatively small village. However, their catchment area is absolutely massive (probably the biggest in that part of Meath) and stretches from Kilcock, up to Kiltale and towards Dunshaughlin/Drumree, up to Trim and towards Rathmolyon/Enfield so their club itself draws from a huge area, even if Summerhill village would be small. Also, given their history, they can at times be a draw to stronger players from weaker clubs. Their midfielder, Adam Flanagan, transferred from Junior B club Clonard a few years back.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,158 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Cheers and thats interesting.

    A couple of other things - I dont know how old Kilbride club is, but until 10 or 15 years ago (as I'm sure you know) Dunaghmore's main pitch was the Wooton. That was sold afaik, when Donaghmore Ashbourne opened its current HQ in Ashbourne.

    Hence, Kilbride became the only option - I'd imagine previously all the kids living close to the old N2 were going to Donaghmore.

    Yes, catchment is big enough. As rural areas go, its still very much within commuting distance and a big amount of one off houses have been built in the area.

    All those solar panel farms wont help things though (if I'm allowed say that!!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,158 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Also - that was a very good restructure by Meath County Board - I can see in Dublin, certainly in underage,the one team clubs are at a disadvantage when competing against B teams in that you are always suspicious about who the opposition is fielding.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,811 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    There were pros and cons. Before the reorganisation, Meath had second teams from Donaghmore/Ashbourne and Dunboyne at Intermediate level with most of the other big clubs (e.g. NOM, Summerhill, Dunshaughlin etc.) having second teams at Junior A level. All second and third teams at Junior A level and below were placed in the same group to avoid them playing strong teams against first teams initially before their stronger players togged out for the first teams and their second teams becoming weaker as the season went on. But at Junior B particularly, this was being mostly won by bigger clubs' second teams. In the 10 seasons before the re-organisation, Junior B was won by a club's first team only 3 times. So it's given teams a realistic goal of silverware. For example, St. Mary's won Junior B this year which was their first piece of silverware since 1979.

    However, some have said that pushing second, third and fourth teams into their own new championships that don't have the same history as the others has meant that these clubs have lost players, some promising younger ones who previously would have competed in the intermediate/junior levels with their second team as part of their development before they were ready for the first team. Overall I think it was a good move. It's doubtful whether the likes of Kilbride would have had the success they've had recently without it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,158 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Thats really interesting and I think reflects the dilemna with streaming, and with trying to have a competition that accomodates single team clubs with multi-team clubs - which is that there is no perfect solutions, only 'least flawed' solutions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,433 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Which Hurling finals are on this weekend ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,509 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭deise man




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,509 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    I was told its the Limerick county final. I could be wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭C4000


    Limerick final is on stream sport only....finals across 5 grades in Limerick all being streamed. Seems that TG4 may be struggling to get access to some counties matches.

    Dublin football final also on tg4 on Saturday I believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    Offaly on TG4. Cork on RTE, Laois on Clubber, Limerick on Stream Sport.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,809 ✭✭✭threeball


    St Thomas's beat Craughwell and Loughrea beat Turloughmore in Galway Hurling semis last night. Both winners were fairly comfortable even though the score in the 2nd game was looking tight with 5 to go, you never got the feeling Loughrea would be caught. Rematch of the final 2 years ago where Thomas's won their 7 in a row.

    Poor enough fare if looked at objectively, as were the two quarter finals i saw. The Offaly final on TG4 at the moment is of a much higher standard. More a war of attrition than overall quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,433 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Kilcormac/Killoughey rewarded with Leinster QF against the Kilkenny winners

    Also Dublin vs Wexford on the other side



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,449 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Na Piarsaigh beat Doon in Limerick AET to set up a Munster QF with Ballygunner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭mooz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,433 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,449 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Can't figure that one out myself.

    Are all suitable Waterford venues unavailable and we will owe them one down the line ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,433 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Yeah it seems rotation doesn't happen between Waterford and Limerick for some reason

    Another crazy thing is the Galway champions going straight into an All Ireland Semi Final. Should be made go into Munster or Leinster



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,811 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Ratoath seconds away from a second senior county final loss in a week. In the hurling final, they were 2 up with a minute to go before Kiltale scrambled a goal to go a point up with 30 seconds remaining. County man Podge O'Hanrahan though stepped up and sent over a brilliant equaliser from play for it to finish Kiltale 3-19, Ratoath 4-16.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    Big surprise in kilkenny intermediate final where James stephens, probably the biggest club in the county were beaten by danesfort. Stephens, relegated last year won most of their games easily so far this year but an inspired danesfort led by Paul Murphy overpowered them



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