Tesla Talk 2

Model Y has had too much removed. Should be honest and call it "taxi spec". If you want to save money for personal car, just wait and buy one that's 2 years old.

Model 3 is still on-target, and lower price helpful. Skoda Octavia replacement market? Good car. I actually prefer the cloth mix on seats. I'd miss auto steer and led colours tho.

Is there suspension downgrade on both? That's a step too far. Suspension needed improvement anyway.

But really, this all looks like a car company with only 2 cars, struggling to stay current. Look at Kia range. EV 3,4,5,6,9.... I'm sure I missed one.

Losing the hepa filter is a big deal. I love that I have clean air in the cabin no matter what. Stuck behind a dirty diesel belching truck? Still clean air in the cabin.

I think over all these are very good compromises. It's well worth saving 5k for those who just don't care about the extras. I'm glad they jave 19" wheels. There's nothing worse than seeing a nice car ruined by tiny cheap wheels.

What, no autopilot? Any link to that? It would be the first Tesla that did not come standard with autopilot in nearly 7 years back when it was an optional extra on the cheaper cars

Now that actually would be a deal breaker to me, I don't give a toss about any of the other stuff, you could take the heater and the aircon out if all I cared 😂

Isn't Adaptive cruise control(ACC) mandatory for new models in E.U. since 2022. I have been in hire city cars with ACC in recent weeks. Delivery in US is 1600 quid.

No BioWeapon defense mode is a dealbreaker for me

So, they kept the pan roof on the 3 but not the Y 😕

You think you don't care, but you do. As the total cost of ownership on buying a 2 year old car with more options than a brand new car for the same money, would be significantly higher. Unless of course you keep either for a very long time. Something that a lot of people plan to do, but very few actually do

If the Model 3 comes in around €33k on the road, it will be cheaper than the cheapest Toyota Corolla, Hyundai i30 or Skoda Octavia. That is quite something.

The cars still have the TACC it is just the autosteer functionality that has been disabled/removed

The total cost of ownership? Let's say you buy a brand new base no options 2026 standard Model 3 for €33k or a 2 year old Highland RWD Model 3 with a few extras for the same money

After 2 years in 2028, the former will be worth say €24k as a 2 year old car. The latter will be worth €18k as a 4 year old car

The depreciation on the newer car will have been €9000, that on the older cat will have been €15000. The other bits of the total cost of ownership will have been roughly the same

Give or take a few thousand on either car, but you get the idea?

Isn't radio delivered via an app on M3/Y as it is?

Notice how they haven't taken away the stalk. Surely that was originally a cost saving cut. It's good though. I think they got the message on that one.