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  • Posts: 33,400 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I guess the hundreds of others who dedicated their lives to public service in healthcare, education, diplomacy and more can go whistle for any reward.

    The Presidency shouldn't be a reward, it should be about who can do the best job



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    More lies. She did not repeat did not compare the current German government with the Nazis. She criticised their ramping up of spending on arms and referenced the 1930’s in that criticism. Not the same thing and the smart voters in the electorate will be able to tell the difference. One hopes there will be enough smart ones to beat the other FFG candidates put together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭almostover


    Just noticed that Gavin's odds are now the same as if the three candidates names were put into a hat and one pulled out (33%). That's nuts, essentially the bookies have assigned his odds the same as random selection. I didn't see the debate last night, he must have been brutal?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    We’ll find out. The younger electorate in particular are much more savvy and mature in relation to proper analysis of world affairs in my experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Him & Connolly have essentially swopped odds. HH has also come in a little bit with the more 'responsive' bookies. I presume this is mostly a response to last night…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I didn't say anything about "reward", you must be confusing me with another poster or post.



  • Posts: 33,400 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You said;

    it is about time someone got recognised for public service, for devoting their life to their country the way that he has.

    What happens to all the others devoted their lives to public service?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It is the same thing, as it was the Nazi government in the 1930s who were ramping up spending on arms.

    It is a bit like me comparing a GAA team to the team in blue that won six-in-a-row and then denying I was referring to Dublin.

    Dose she think people are stupid not to see what she is doing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,902 ✭✭✭Allinall


    How many of the others offered to serve as president?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    There is no other public servant standing for President the last time I looked.

    Do you have an issue with public service being recognised, for devoting your life to your country being appreciated? Gavin is a symbol for all public servants.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭theMountain




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,433 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    The most telling comment by Humphries in the debate was that there had been a huge Russian drone attack on Ukraine the previous day and while some people had been killed that hundreds of people would have been killed if it were not for the anti aircraft defence provided by Germany. CC seems to be happy to see these people killed rather than shoot at the drones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Except it isn't legitimate criticism comparing the Germany of today to the 1930s Nazis.

    That she keeps repeating it is a sign that she is no more than Putin's puppet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,182 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Think Fintan O’Toole on the money here


    Catherine Connolly should keep her inner Basil Fawlty under wraps

    Parties backing Connolly for president might remind her that accusing our EU allies of being proto-fascist warmongers is not a winning electoral strategy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,000 ✭✭✭✭blackwhite


    Connolly says that Russia was wrong to invade Ukraine - but she also says that it's wrong for any other countries to provide defensive weapons to Ukraine which can be used to try and repel the invasion, or indeed to protect the Ukrainian population from Russian attacks.

    It's not unlike the gun-lobby in the US rushing to offer "thoughts and prayers" after a school shooting, but being completely opposed to the measures that might actually prevent school shootings from happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,182 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    she constantly tries to be on two sides of the fence… but but but is pretty much it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,004 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    The only group spending on arms in the 1930s in Germany were the Nazis. She didn't use the word "Nazi" admittedly, but that is the only thing she could have been referring to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    No she didn’t. She said no such thing. Are opponents of Connolly going to stop telling bare faced lies on here?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,004 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Nope. It's dirty politics here.

    If you provide a Dail speech of what exactly she said, they scatter like woodlice.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    From what I could gather from the debate yesterday, she doesn't know what the Ukrainians should do when the Russian drones are overhead.

    Maybe she thinks they should all run outside and wave up at them so that the drones know they are human.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Huh?

    It is the same thing.

    If she said that the current government in Germany were like the goose-stepping government of the 1930s, who would she be referring to?

    If she said that the current government in Germany were like the genocidal government of the 1930s, who would she be referring to?

    If she said that the current government in Germany were like the Aryan supremacist government of the 1930s, who would she be referring to?

    If she said that the current government in Germany were like the arms spending government of the 1930s, who would she be referring to?

    It is not difficult to figure out that in all cases she would be referring to the obvious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Ha Ha. Fintan used to be a respectable journalist, getting old and desperate. Sad to see.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,662 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Connolly is a leftist of the old-school, in the sense that being firmly anti-war is a core tenet of her worldview. She has made no secret of the fact, even if she has sometimes erred in doing so (even as a fan of hers, I'd absolutely concede the Syria photo op was an obvious error).

    And yes, from that viewpoint, it is important to express serious skepticism and concern about the rapid re-militarisation of the world - Europe very much included. Of course, there's no denying the likes of Russia have been aggressors in recent times. But equally, we have repeatedly seen quite significant failures of diplomacy. I would argue that Europe has failed to make any meaningful effort to achieve peace or a ceasefire in Ukraine, happy to let the war continue for now despite the ever-mounting human cost. It has perhaps even undermined attempts to progress peace talks. And I say that being fully on the side of Ukraine and believe Russia was the obvious, imperialist aggressor when it invaded the country. More countries have joined NATO - an obviously provocative act, no matter the motivation - and European NATO countries have happily ceded ground to Donald Trump in terms of pumping more investment into defence. Not to mention Europe's total failures around Gaza.

    You don't have to be a Putin puppet or apologist to be concerned about any of that.

    When there's a rush to massively increase defence funding over any meaningful attempt at peaceful, non-aggressive solutions - and I'm not for a second saying those solutions would be 'easy' - then yes anyone with true anti-war principles is right to be concerned, even alarmed by what's unfolding not so far from our own borders. And all this happening against the backdrop of the slow-motion failure of neo-liberal politics and the institutional, chronic underinvestment in areas that make the average person's life tangibly better (from healthcare to housing). Connolly has said very little in that respect that I'd disagree with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    It’s not the same thing. She’s comparing the increase in arms spending, that’s not the same as calling the current German government Nazis. I don’t believe that you are innocently misunderstanding and misrepresenting what she said, my belief is that you are lying about it and deliberately misrepresenting and misunderstanding what she said.

    You didn’t answer my other question above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Interesting that the vast majority of the chat on here is about Connolly. The opposition’s only strategy is to try to stop Connolly. She is far and away the outstanding candidate, it’s not even close. Hopefully the electorate will turn out, especially the young voters who aren’t as easily scared by bullshit and lies, and elect her as President.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,000 ✭✭✭✭blackwhite


    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2024-06-11/74/

    Deputy Catherine Connolly asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs what assessment he has made of the implications for Ireland of the Council decision to use the proceeds from immobilised Russian assets to support Ukraine’s military activities to defend itself and to boost its military capabilities; if he is satisfied that Russian assets immobilised by Ireland will not support or be used for such military activities; if so, how so; and if he will make a statement on the matter

    She's on the Dáil record demanding that Russian assets frozen by Ireland not be used to fund any military support for Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭TheCitizen


    She’s asking a question in the Dáil there, did she get an answer?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭pureza




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