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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,011 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Exploring your bullet points as an interesting exercise:

    1 is probably a toss up between HH and CC

    2 JG

    3 HH

    4 JG

    So, JG wins by half a point from HH :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Yes, I feel confident in saying that her opinions are not only wrong but complete and utter rubbish. There are no echoes of the thirties in the rearmament of Germany. Germany is a democratic state and anybody that imagines it is going to engage in some rampage of conquest is beyond delusional or believes that there is some kind of original sin in the Germans (as if the same insane criminality didn't exist in other nations like Japan, China and Russia) that will ineluctably emerge as aggression and genocide. And this pacifist has chosen to ignore some of the lessons of history: that appeasement of murderous, aggressive dictators never has a happy ending.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    So I accurately predicted that her views on Ukraine and Russia would be an issue

    Either

    (1) I was right to predict that her position on Russia would be an issue, or

    (2) I was able to manipulate the mainstream media into honing in on the issue.

    So thanks for the compliment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It can only be bullsh!t if it isn't true.

    The only person who has kept the stories going on foreign policy has been Catherine Connolly with her increasingly out of touch responses. She is completely loony.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    There is nothing dishonest about my posts.

    Your post contains opinions based on a conspiracy theory view of the world rooted in Russian sympathy, they are not facts.

    It is dishonest to post your opinions as facts.

    As I said, expressing those opinions is reckless and makes her unsuitable to be President.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,564 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Aye.

    You are just doing the same as the concensus driven elements of the media.

    How dare you criticise the US UK or NATO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    The other candidates have been asked in response to the demented wonderings of Catherine.

    They have given measured and reasoned responses in comparison to her mad conspiracy theories.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    https://www.thejournal.ie/new-documents-detail-fianna-fail-pressure-on-president-hillery-in-1982-465843-May2012/

    Patrick Hillery has been greatly underestimated as a President. He is one of the few who has had to actually deal with a constitutional crisis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,149 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Gavin got a hammering in the Drogheda Independent/Irish Independent yesterday. Never heard about Oliver Plunketts Head / Relic. And had to play it cute to dodge a question by secondary kids on lowering voting age.

    https://archive.is/GhvB9

    If I remember HH only had a question on Fox Hunting yesterday. Which she just spoke generally on culture of rural Ireland mostly controlled etc.

    At this rate HH only has to avoid major errors getting the tap over frees. While the other two keep fluffing the ball.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,763 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Jesus, have you absolutely no self awareness? Seriously, you need to read back over all your posts in this thread. The election will come and go but your character assassination will remain.

    "It is dishonest to post your opinions as facts". That's exactly what you are doing. It's bordering on extreme hatred. Reply to my post on the Dail speech re Assad/Sanctions if you want to play fair.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭mvt


    Thanks for the article particularly as the quote function doesn't always work for me.

    As a quibble I would feel the author from Ohio is stating his opinion as fact but maybe that's just me.

    I'm not a Pacifist btw, fully believe in the right to use force when necessary.

    I think it is good that you have people like CC that will make you think about the consequences of your actions & also the reasons that you have ended up in the situation that force is needed.

    The military industrial complex is more than happy with the situation in Ukraine & we need reasonable people at the table to question this.

    This is obviously outside the remit of the presidency of Ireland but we need to start to shake up the status quo in this & other countries & in my opinion a vote for either the FG or FF candidates is not going to make this happen.

    Finally who reading this is going to fight in a war in Europe that we seem to be sleep walking into ? I'm not & I don't want my children & grandchildren to either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,149 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Looney would be the wrong choice of words. CC is just overly earnest, politically naive and not very streetwise. If I was in CC’s team I would put her in a rural place with a strong Irish place name discussing its origins. Then off to a Gaelscoil in working class Dublin.

    I noticed today Ferriter (the historian) pointed out that only one of three candidates speak Irish fluently. And “that matters”.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,011 ✭✭✭✭josip


    In fairness, asking a Dublin man about Plunketts is only going to mean one thing to him.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    As a quibble I would feel the author from Ohio is stating his opinion as fact but maybe that's just me.

    There are many, many other articles and documentaries out there. It is no secret that Russia aided in re-arming and retraining Germany in the 30s.

    Finally who reading this is going to fight in a war in Europe that we seem to be sleep walking into ? I'm not & I don't want my children & grandchildren to either.

    Sleepwalking into it is exactly what Connolly is pushing for as opposed to confronting it before it is too late.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    The speaking of Irish is a very limited and diminished view of Irish culture.

    Heather Humphreys is steeped in a minority Irish culture where speaking Irish is not considered mainstream, does that make her any less Irish? Only if you don't respect minorities.

    Jim Gavin is steeped in traditional Irish sport, winning medals on the playing field, and coaching the greatest team to play the game. Does the GAA have a lesser status in Irish culture than the language? Only if you are elitist about the language.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Israel is to blame for everything that’s happening in Gaza including Hamas rule. Stop being obtuse, you’re sound like one of those lying Israeli spokespeople



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Even talking about ‘England’ like that when she means the UK makes her sound like a Yank or someone similarly divorced from contemporary reality over here. Such nuances matter in that line of work. It’s not her views I object to as much as the bald, abrasive way she expresses them which is completely inappropriate for a role that is supposed to bring the country together.

    Post edited by Ardillaun on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    No they don’t think Hamas has a future in a proper settlement, you’re deliberately trying to misrepresent and misinterpret what she said. They are part of the problem now, a lasting solution would mean they’d cease to exist along with the much more prevalent terrorism from the Israelis government. You know all this, silly buggers stuff and anytime Catherine Connolly will be quizzed on it she’ll be able to clarify her correct position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    She seems to need to do a lot of clarifying. We can't afford that in a President.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,149 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Incorrect today much of the middle classes and younger Irish people have embraced the Irish language. Symbolism is important when it comes to the Irish language/presidency. Ferriter is correct.

    The issue you have it seems to me you associate the Irish language with the provos or backwardness. Which is an unfortunate perception. As I have found foreigners are more than keen to learn the Irish language. Sudan, France, Russia, Kentucky, Kansas are some of the places people are from who have no issue with learning the Irish language. Who I have met personally.


    But yet are more than keen to give out about “Republicans” if they are bigoted towards Protestant traditions. You can’t have it both ways be bigoted towards the Irish language, and then accuse others of the same when it suits your narrative.

    Fortunately for you though the Irish language seems to be the only plus point CC has. And will be lucky to finish 2nd the way it is going for her so far.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,564 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The public aren't stupid, the deliberate altering of what she is saying is transparent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,934 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I'm happy enough for Germany to rearm and I want everyone to send loads of weapons to Ukraine.

    But this idea that EU or NATO countries are under threat is bollix. Poland is under no danger from a Russian army that can't even secure two provinces of the much smaller Ukraine. This war has shown Russia to be fairly useless as a conventional army.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    You misunderstood my post. I am saying that Irish culture is broader and wider than the Irish language. Seeing the speaking of Irish as being singularly important for the President is a reductive and exclusive view of Irish culture.

    I have pointed to two other aspects of Irish culture, one each for HH and JG which CC does not have. CC has no understanding of minority Protestant culture or of GAA games, at best her understanding is as superficial as their knowledge of the Irish language.

    I do not elevate the Irish language above other aspects of Irish culture, including minority cultures. It is only the "Ireland for the Irish" brigade who see Irishness in those limited terms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    In Canada our roughly equivalent post is the Governor General. The previous one was a former astronaut who turned out to be a genuine space cadet. Personality matters more than political outlook in such jobs:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Of course, over at the wretched Daily Telegraph the candidate they are interested in is Connolly.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/09/23/hamas-palestinian-people-irish-catherine-connolly-election/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,647 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    not being obtuse. You’re just far too one-sided in wanting to bash Israel on all this. You don’t care about what Israel have to face!! Clear as day when you’re laying the blame for all this carnage ALL on Israel. This is exactly why there won’t be peace



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,149 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Again incorrect you are assuming anyone with an interest in the Irish language is to use your word from a previous post a far right “looney”.
    More often than not you will find the far right have a limited grasp of the Irish language, because they are not very well educated. That is the irony of your assumption.
    Linda Ervine had no issues learning the Irish language she understands its importance culturally. Yet she is Unionist.

    Not only do you not understand the importance of a language to a culture/country. You seem to equate the mindset to “Irish for Irish”. To the Irish language. You have obviously never experienced comhrà as Gaeilge with a man from Sundan wearing a white Arran Jumper! Nor listened to two Americans discuss as Gaeilge - the minute details of Donegal dialects in the language.

    If you don’t think the Irish language is important for Irish culture, nevermind the President of Ireland. You are making yourself “culturally stunted”. In my view at best

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    We need a warmer version of the Queen, someone we can all look up to and see something of ourselves there. The mother of the nation. It’s an illusion but a comforting and useful one.



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