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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,771 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Putin will eventually need to be dragged to the negotiation tables. That's how it ends. Hopefully he is dragged kicking and screaming.

    No response to the Dail speech I quoted?

    I can send you multiple Dail speeches where she condemns the illegal invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

    I don't think Connolly will ever try to be vanilla candidates like the other two. They have no substance whatsoever. Hence the low interest/turnout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,668 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That is shockingly bad.

    Why can't she call on Russia to withdraw? No equivocating. No making excuses for Putin. No blaming NATO. Just call on Russia to withdraw.

    Not hard for any person of decency to do. I can only conclude that she is not a person of decency or morals.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,650 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Economics101


    In relation to CC's paranoia about German re-armament, during the Cold War years German military expenditure and manpower was far larger then in recent decades. That's because the threat was real, and once the threat went away Germany and other European powers cut their military effort substantially.

    Now that the threat is back, so is the necessary response. Thie puts CC's distorted views into perspective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,668 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Hitler admired Ford's violent suppression of his workers' attempts to unionise (including murder). But mainly that Ford was a lifelong raging anti-Semite and generously funded anti-Semitic publications and causes - and that Ford thought the Nazis were great guys.

    Of course American companies were in there, there was a market. They sold shítloads of stuff to the Soviet Union in that period, too.

    Britain and France didn't confront Germany because they wanted to avoid war. As we all know this continued right up until the invasion of Poland. Appeasement never works. Something Catherine Connolly would do well to learn.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,871 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/


    If you copy the link the article is one of many that explains how Hamas came to power and that Israe was part of it because they wanted to reduce the influence of the Palestinian Authority and the prospect of the two state solution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Let me try and understand this. When Catherine Connolly was talking about the rearmament of Germany in the 1930s, that wasn't the Nazis? Are you really trying to suggest that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,650 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I get all this. At times even enemies negotiate and do deals. That’s life, human nature. But it was not Israelis that secured the 2006 result for Hamas. Palestinians chose them to win. So stop blaming Israel for Hamas rule!



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    So what is the answer? Subservience? Comparing the situation to 1930s Germany is cheap, offensive and inaccurate.

    Russia arming and training Germany prior to WW2 is a fairly well known event.

    https://warontherocks.com/2016/06/sowing-the-wind-the-first-soviet-german-military-pact-and-the-origins-of-world-war-ii/

    While Soviet-German military cooperation between 1922 and 1933 is often forgotten, it had a decisive impact on the origins and outbreak of World War II. Germany rebuilt its shattered military at four secret bases hidden in Russia. In exchange, the Reichswehr sent men to teach and train the young Soviet officer corps. However, the most important aspect of Soviet-German cooperation was its technological component. Together, the two states built a network of laboratories, workshops, and testing grounds in which they developed what became the major weapons systems of World War II. Without the technical results of this cooperation, Hitler would have been unable to launch his wars of conquest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It is 100% true.

    She has compared the current German government to the 1930s i.e. Nazis, she has described France as untrustful, she has said that American is an imperialist power and she then tells Starmer that he can't tell other countries what to do!!!!

    Those are her words, she is reckless and completely unsuited to be President.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭rdwight


    A vote for Connolly is a vote for Mary Lou as next Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I agree that Hamas have no future in a proper peace settlement, 99% of the world agree on that, the problem for this thread - the Presidential election one - is that Connolly and her supporters on here think that they do.

    The rest of your post is for the Israel thread and is off-topic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,588 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    To ignore that she said 'some of what is happening' is cheap and inaccurate and offensive to truthful reporting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,588 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Utter cringe horseshit there.

    Desperate for an angle you make stuff up...again.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    None of what is happening bears any resemblance to Germany of the 1930s. Zero, zip, zilch. It is an insanely offensive and inaccurate thing to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,588 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    In your opinion.
    And we know opinions can be wrong.

    It is exactly the kind of thing a pacifist who has learned from history might say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,765 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Even if all you are saying is true, and I'd say you are somewhat over exaggerating, Connolly has consistently campaigned against the social injustice in this country perpetuated by the parties that are represented by the other two candidates so she is still the best of the 3 candidates we have



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Butson


    Connolly is a loose Cannon.

    A Higgins on steroids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,765 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I guess if some unknown on the internet says it's true then it must be

    FF and FG have effectively turned UHL into the building that people go to to die instead of getting better. They have guaranteed that there will be huge swathes of Irish families in the future who will never own their own home. The 2 parties are probably in high level negotiations deciding what next to destroy

    In my mind, and in the mind of any sensible person, these parties have done far worse in their lifetime than anything Connolly will ever pass a few remarks about



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,765 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    FF and FG are parties of high rents, high house prices and deathcare instead of healthcare



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭jjmcclure


    I'm afraid I will doing a "Monty Brewster" on my ballot. "Who ya gona vote for?" —"None of the above!!!")



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,668 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    There's next to no linkage between general elections and presidential elections.

    You could argue that Labour's 1992 relative success was partly down to Mary Robinson (and maybe it was, but lots of other factors involved) but they didn't get any benefit from two wins for Michael D Higgins.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Well if Hamas has no legitimacy neither has Abbas and the PA.

    The Times is reporting that Tony Blair is all set (with Trump's blessing) to head up an interim government for Gaza that could last five years.

    "Blair, 72, is said to have the support of senior figures close to Trump to oversee the proposed Gaza International Transitional Authority (Gita) which could become the “supreme political and legal authority” for the territory for up to five years."

    Sir Tony Blair ‘offers to lead interim governing body of postwar Gaza’

    Blair, the American-backed Viceroy of Gaza, you couldn't make it up.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Based on the media statements in the days prior to the "Game Changer" announcement , I genuinely believe that they were planning to run their own candidate , but whoever it was bailed on them at the last moment.

    And because they had fannied around for so long and left it so late , they had no other alternative but to back Connolly at the last minute.

    The real story might come out eventually , but I find it highly implausible that SF consciously planned to back Connolly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,668 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If pacifists learned anything from history they wouldn't be pacifists.

    Sad, but true.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,668 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The real story might come out eventually

    Maybe in a 'Boston Tapes' scenario - too risky while one is still alive…

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    If all she had talked about were areas of societal and social justice, this would be a radically different campaign. She is a politician, who as you say, has a long history of campaigning on these topics. And there are a wealth of issues she could challenge on

    • Budget 2026 is going to be the harshest in a number of years, as FFG have returned to form, and removed any extra assistance for those on welfare payments. Tax credits may be given, but one off payments to help those most vulnerable are off the table.
    • Despite literally acknowledging that fuel costs are rising, especially this year. There will be no energy credit at all in budget 2026
    • With the expiring of the temporary 1000euro reduction on student fees, the government is putting in place a perminant 500 euro reduction. You dont need foundation maths to see that functionally, that is a 500 euro increase in student fees. And this in a country that ON PAPER, has free third level education at undergrad level
    • Social housing has been repeatidly botched, and the term affordible housing has been 'fudged' into its place. Its clear FFG value, above all else, the large property development industry, and will never do anything to jeopardize its interests.
    • Broader Healthcare, and Mental Healthcare are again discussed at length regularly, but nothing is actually put in place. I have personal family connections to this issue, and i know one family member who waited 12 months before they were able to receive regular councilling, to say nothing of psychiatric healthcare

    Im probably leaving out a lot - but the above talking points could have framed the entire debate around this election. These issues could have been to the forefront, which could easily have impacted government policy moving forward. Not directly, as its not in the remit of the President to change any of the above. But as campaign talking points - these could have been front and center.

    CC had to understand, that bringing contentious foreign policy issues to the table, would re-frame the election onto those issues. She understood this, yet she continued on that line, which is why it is still being discussed today - and will probably feature centrally in the election as a whole. Its a staggering error of judgement, and again, it goes toward diminishing her credibility for the role of president. Topics are flown like kites, for all to see, and end up being discussed and debated by all; both inside and outside the halls of power. Clearly CC knows this, and decided Israel/Gaza, European/German-Rearming, and US Foreign Policy - are her major concerns.

    Its not merely a mistake - its bordering on ridiculous. And it diminishes her credibility in my eyes- Even if she pivots to the above social issues during the campaign, the fires she has set will still be burning over the next few weeks.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,588 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The only risk with the Boston Tapes was to the credibility of those behind the project.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,542 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    A non FFG candidate would have a magnificent chance if they knew what they were doing.

    Connolly seems clueless.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    None of that has anything to do with the Presidential Election only just to show once again how out of step Connolly is.



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