Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

But this is the hypocrisy. The 'right' wailed about the cancel culture, but now are all for it?

So was it wrong when the dems did it but its ok now?

No, it's just as ridiculous. Its even worse now tbh

And this is all irrelevant. You're distracting from the fact that the network was concerned about retaliation from Trump, this is after FCC already targeted them. So the issue here isn't late night TV, it's Trump and his intimidation of networks including via regulatory channels.

If there was an inkling that Biden was engaging in stuff like this, you and others would be losing your ****. But when it's pretty clearly happened, you distract and rant about TDS. Because you don't really mind, Trump could jail his political enemies and you'd explain it away. Cause you like what this tyrant stands for.

Oh so it's a performance issue? Nothing to do with his political criticism?

I don`t see where Brian Kilmeade has been sacked by Fox News or censured by the FCC and he actually advocated murdering people on live T.V. Nor have I seen any here who thinks it was correct for Kimmel to be censured and ultimately sacked calling for either for Kilmeade.

But then Fox News is a MAGA rathole and Trump`s favourite T.V. mouthpiece so their double standards are not difficult to see.

The shoe isn't on the other foot, for two reasons.

Now before I go into those reasons, I think it should be made clear that Kimmel hasn't been cancelled from speaking, he's been fired from his job, and despite what people think there is a difference. He's still free to say what he wants, he just won't be doing it on TV. Essentially, his fundamental right hasn't been removed, and that's important to note.

Now for the two reasons that it's a problem.

First off, when people have been "cancelled" before, or products boycotted, the reason for it was public pressure for whatever caused employers to remove said person/product. Up until now, it's essentially been a private enterprise making the decision themselves. This isn't what happened here. This was clear pressure from the US government, most notably Trump and the FCC, putting pressure on a network to silence a Trump critic or face consequences, which they did.

Secondly, that's a line that has not been crossed before. There has never been an overt move from a position of political power to deliberately control media output via threats and intimidation before. Colbert was probably cancelled due to being critical of Trump, but his show also lost a lot of money, so there was some justification. This was a clear direction from up on high. That amounts to direct government control over output. He's already done it with the press pool and constant frivolous litigation combined with threats and intimidation.

Right or left, being a Trump fan or if you can't stand ba5tard, whatever way you look at it, with this move, Trump (supported by his acolytes in key positions) has basically stamped his authority on all media output in the US, and has decided that suppression, propaganda or compelled speech is the order of the day in the media via threats to licences via the FCC, or litigation via stacked courts. And that there will be severe consequences for anyone who doesn't toe the line, be it financial or even in terms of sheer existence.

Right now, the leader of the US has control over what is put out on the airwaves, papers and (via marriages of convenience with Trump having the upper hand) the major social networks. One man having total power over media is a very major erosion of US free speech, because it means dissent and opposition views will be gone, and with it, one of the pillars of free speech.

That's why the shoe isn't on the other foot with Kimmel's firing. If it was just ABC firing him for comments, that would be the case, and people would just have to suck it up. As it is, ABC seem to have said they have no problem with what Kimmel said, but have fired him because of what Trump will do them if they don't. That's the dangerous point.

This is new for the US, and whatever your view of Trump, it's a clear statement that Trump now controls all media for the purposes of propaganda, speech suppression or compelled speech for the benefit of Trump and the agenda of the MAGA party, and that anyone who doesn't obey, whether and individual or a company, will be removed.

The only step after this move is to control the internet, and with it make redundant their first amendment in full.

Proof it was nothing to do with what Fallon said..

22nd July

Consistent as always here.

Silencing a talk show host because he made fun of Trump, and you present the exact example of why Trump supporters are clueless idiots, time and time again.

Karma will come for Trump, hopefully in the shape of a slow decline. Attacking the free press and talk show hosts just amplify how much of a pathetic, sad, idiot that he is. The job numbers and impending contraction on the America economy will be great to witness, just to see him blither along like a loser, as always.

You can at least admit that you’re a Trump supporter now…go on.

Its a small gesture on your part but a good one and every little bit helps. I have been paying attention to where products I buy are made carefully more recently since the US went off the rails so to speak and as much as I can stopped buying US products and replacing them with Irish/EU or other allied countries products. For example I recently was looking for a new bottle of cologne. For years I had used Calvin Klein ones but this time given Calvin Klein is American I bought Patrick an Irish made cologne instead.

Bill Clinton who at age 49 seduced a 22 year old woman barely out of college, used her as some throwaway sex toy, jizzed all over her clothes in the most powerful office on earth and then lied about it?

You looked up to that guy?

Someone on this thread seems very fond of AI… long, long, long …. posts with figures being AI hallucinated and firstly, secondly, thirdly being full of obviously AI written structuring.

Obviously, some of the stuff that's come out about him shows him in a different light but, at the time of his Presidency and when information wasn't so easily accessible, I'd have had a very different impression of him.

That said, what he did with Lewinsky still pales in comparison to censoring free speech and attempting to overthrow democracy.

I never understood the whole Lewinsky thing. From my understanding, what he did with Lewinsky was consensual, and she confirmed this? Given that it was, where's the problem there? He wouldn't be, and clearly wasn't, the first President to shag a member of staff.

It's the Epstein stuff and reported creepy behaviour, as well as alleged sexual assaults, I'd have the problem with in terms of Clinton's character.

The Lewinsky thing? Not so much. It was a nothing burger as the yanks say.

I thought TDS was what his cultists and MAGA's practiced?

Was Lewinsky not 21/22?