Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

I mean it’s pure Animal Farm- the pigs in the farmhouse having an orgy- they’re not interested in going outside- nothing for them out there

Anyone watching Channel 4 last night, 'Trump Versus The Truth', they spent like three hours going through 100 of his lies, in detail... I sat through 4 before turning it off, and that was while scrolling through my phone. I wonder did anyone, at all, watch the whole thing all the way through?

Was referencing early reports including police officers calling it a Mauser and the whole length in how did he carry it scenario. Some strange similarities in many areas.

I watched about 1/2 hour before heading to bed but I recorded it and will watch bits of it again - it’s absolutely brilliant programming - to have nearly 3 hours of Trump lies outed, broadcast on the night he’s stuffing his face with gout inducing food is very special.

We need more of this kind of programming not less- young people especially are a lot less critical of what they’re reading and seeing and need to be more wary of being brainwashed by tripe like this - it’s public broadcasting at its best and should be shown in schools as an educational support

I’ve answered that question in my post - I imagine quite a lot of people watched it or will watch a lot of it

Based on what I'm seeing online, elsewhere quite a few did watch the Channel 4 protest programming, even if they dipped in and out of it briefly.

While there's a bit of a sense of putting on rubber gloves, holding one's nose and thinking of the national interest amongst some of the centre right types, and you'll get that here too, there's a big cohort in Britain who are absolutely disgusted at the level of sycophantic brown nosing Starmer's engaging in with Trump, and it's tying into the way protesters have been dealt with and everything else. I don't think it's going to do Labour or his premiership much good in long term, or even in the short to medium term, and it will be even worse if this attempt at 'Trump whispering' ultimately backfires, as it's just coming across as spineless. All he's really going to end up doing is helping to lay a path for Farage and Reform, which will be backed by Trump, MAGA and all the associated influencers.

freeze peach

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/sep/18/abc-barred-from-trumps-uk-press-conference-after-clash-with-australian-journalist-john-lyons?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

He is now banning freedom of speech especially any criticism of him where is congress? in America jimmy kennel for saying kirk was killed by a maga hound

Kirks death is been used as a deliberate tool to attack free speech

heard obama talking about same he was been careful on his comments

Kirk deserved what got he was leading the way in hate speech and a maga supporter did it

UK loves him should have made him a lord

They tried but thankfully the comically inept nadine dories was in charge of that process and showed at several times she hadn't a clue what she was doing, in one select committee she claimed channel 4 was publicly funded and it was embarrassingly explained to her that while it is owned by the state it receives no public funding whatsoever.

That's the problem though, he's looking for an excuse to declare a national emergency. All of his rolling out of the army and so on in cities is based on what amounts to a false declaration of an emergency to use emergency powers.

There's a certain inevitability when it comes to gun violence in the US, so you'll likely find more of these incidents happening and more excuses to crack down on protest and dissent, no matter what the underlying causes might be.

Given we're only 9 months in, the amount of impact he's had on US systems and fundamental tenets of public policy has been profound. If it continues at this pace, it'll be a very strange America in a couple of years time. The courts aren't really capable of pushing back against someone acting ultra vires (beyond their powers) as the US Supreme Court is basically political and stacked and waving past things that in any kind of analysis should be unconstitutional. Congress is still just rubber stamping anything he does / says and the media is incapable of push back due to corporate ownership and general spinelessness.

What happens next is anyone's guess. It doesn't look like a society that's has the tools to push back and it's very rapidly lost its political culture around open democracy and freedom of speech. It's actually remarkable how quickly it's unravelling in many ways and a lot of it is is down to exceptionalism, performative patriotism and an inability to be robustly critical of how well their systems are actually functioning.

The US is basically being systematically unpicked and having its political culture undermined.

Just cancelled the Disney subscription. Had a conversation with the kids as this is a good opportunity to discuss the importance of free speech with them. It may seem like a pathetically small gesture but it's one of the few we can actually make.

There were heads on here before the '24 election who would say, 'He was already president and it was fine, so it'll be fine again'. One can go back and find these posts.

Notable by their complete absence, now. Anyone still feel that way who wants to speak up? No? Thought so.