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Milk Price III

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    lads ….our farmer elected boards couldn’t give 2 shites about is ….only time they want to know suppliers is at election time ….the Dairygold cut is some kick in the nuts and questions need to be asked of there board and management as to how that came on one go ….its simply not good enough …board members need to be called out and stop hiding behind management ….they are picking up a nice cheque for there efforts which is paid for by us as well as go off on nice trips …there needs to be accountability and board members for most part are held to account on what they actually do at meetings



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    They seem to off frightened the s**t out of twomey hes gone of tic toc since may, deleted his account, also noticeable the group that was formed have gone very quiet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭yewdairy


    3 cent is a savage cut

    Unfortunately butter prices are falling and future markets showing more price pressure

    https://www.globaldairytrade.info/en/product-results/butter/

    Thats link to what butter price has done in gdt, over last 6 months, sky high butter prices have underpinned milk price, that's not there anymore, price is going to come down.

    Hopefully won't be too bad and we might see price rises again early in new year, but nobody has a clue what will happen to milk price



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭ginger22


    Will the price cuts bring down the crazy dairy stock prices. With the way costs have gone anything less than 45 cents is no good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    will be interesting ….2500/3000 been got for in calf heifers atm ….there is a big shortage of dairyvstock and that won’t be reversed anytime soon



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭older by the day


    The coops should be careful all the same. Land is turning to muck here and any cow around 600kg is making up 2k in the mart ring.

    It's still 6mths to saint Patrick's day, there won't be many anxious to be pulling dry cows up to Christmas if that drop is copied next month



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 844 ✭✭✭degetme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭straight




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Once cull prices stay the right side of 6 euro a kilo in factory, simply factory late calving/problem cows and replace with heifers, ethically its wrong but the department and eu heads couldn't give a fiddlers...

    Lads replacing lost stock due to tb will easily swallow up any surplus heifers, and theirs Algeria looking for 100k plus heifers in the next 2-3 years for their mega dairy project, plus a strong UK market



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    we’re safe there for at least 3 years I think but you’d imagine deep down coops are fairly concerned re this ….they have a lot of money invested in processing based on it …..the mad thing is they are silent enough on it ….more imalagamatiiion will happen and there will be casualties but that isn’t always a guarantee to success either …..my processor has gone from near top paying coop in country to near bottom recently in less than 12 months despite claims around synergies ,strong milk price etc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭ginger22


    Well there is a saying you can buy gold too dear. Arrabawn and Kerry learning that now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    once they get elected they forget about the outside world.they pick up a nice cheque as you say and other perks to keep them all onside.

    Our own inertia as suppliers is also part of the problem.people nowadays haven’t the time to scratch their arse let alone go to co-op agm’s or any other co-op meetings.the management knows this and will get away with it.

    That cut by dairygold is savage for the time of yr when milk is declining and with this weather will fall away .the so called big three of Kerry,dairygold and glanbia really love being bottom of the milk league as much as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    it’s frustrating but class have to make the effort ….the easy option is not to bother ,don’t go for committees or go to area meetings/agm etc where coop top brass and board members are …..too many don’t bother and not enough ask questions ….been on these committees below the boards is pure frustration tho as most of time the lads that are able to probe and ask questions keep getting knocked back and have obstacles put in there way ….and this get fed up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Coolcormack1979


    yes we all know lads that promise the world that if they get in the committee and are taken to one side and told not to rock the boat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    What can lads actually do on these committes though, not suprised no has time for it. The reality is unless Ireland shifts more milk into proper value-added products instead of bulk commodities, we’ll always be tied to the same boom-and-bust cycle of the commodity markets. I actually don't see the point in giving out anymore when global prices tank. Obviously processors need to be run well but efficiences? Probably can sack half their staff… but what else. looking at CME, similar to GDT, spot butter it is down 32% from the 2025 highs in July. Currently at $1.77/lb. What percentage of Irish production is in butter now...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭alps


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    Market sentiment blown. USDA recent projections on milk production increases in US and Europe have buyers on short punts and will most likely remain until things bottom out.

    The markets don't care in the slightest how much it costs you to produce the litre of milk or how much pain you have to endure in the process.

    Factor in also euro movement v dollar.

    Batten down, the faster it bottoms out the faster it gets to the point of upward movement. This is no different than what we've been accustomed to since quotas were removed, however you just might expect shorter downsides..Better now than next April/May.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Labour efficency in the coop is an interesting one. Organisation's harp on about so many jobs in the industry. Getting rid of half of them wouldn't be a good look either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 captain hadley


    The suppliers bottom line should be the most important thing .I wonder is this vita actives that dairygold bought a share for 43 million last year the cause for there embarrassing price.our ceo was the financial controller when we had the firesale of galtee meats. Henchy got the blame for all of that but surely the other board members could of stopped him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    area/tipp slashed price by 2 cent to 46.89…nice bunch …..merger and all the promises we were given were nothing only cheap talk to butter us up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    I warned you be prepared for a rocky ride after the merger.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    wasn’t expecting things to be all rosey but neither did I expect us to be happy n this position …we’ve gone from paying near leading price in country to near bottom in last year ….lads starting to take note at last but there’s a wedge brewing beteeeen board ,management and suppliers ….we getctext with price nothing as to wether a increase /decrease etc and now throwing in average coop price to try make it look good …big questions now for board/management as to how we’ve got to this position so quick despite all the sugar costing of things pre merger



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    you have a board in dg that mostly doesn't give a fiddlers. won't listen to anyone. they were told to rationalise. brought in a half arsed plan to save 14 million at a cost of 7 million when they needed 30 million plan

    board should be sacked for incompetence. only half retired clowns on it. that is what half the board are.

    oone sold the cows and is "sharefarming " what interest in milk price has the likes of him?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    I ve been told the total drop in these months will be in the order of 7 cent, that's including what has come already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,349 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Surprised they just didn't get it over with in one go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    high 30s low 40s at best for spring is what’s been drip fed out around here …not good enough after money we have invested in processing for casein and fat filled products that came as part of tipp deal ….the messages and phone calls and promises were flying around late last year from board and management ….we’re lucky to get a vague message now telling us just what the milk price is and this shite of quoting average coop milk price …..hopefully now suppliers stand up and start holding boards to account



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Will lads start looking south to Tirlan?

    Even thou they’ll probably be paying similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,349 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    It's a sad day when glanbia is seen as a better alternative



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭yewdairy


    90% of the milk price is outside coop control and is down to market forces which no coop well run or badly run has any control over.

    Drinagh were the best paying coop in 2024 and they paid 7% more than the worst which was tipp coop, which at that stage was a basket case near insolvency.

    The extra money which can be got from an efficient coop is important and I am all for going to meeting putting pressure on board and management. But when the market turns the price is going one way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    agree …but product mix comes into it as well zzmyvoen coop has invested (wisely)in casein and we’ve got a lucrative French cheese arm and fat filled products from our merger with tipp …..these were meant to shield us from worst of price drops ….at the moment it isn’t and questions need asking as to why



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    tirlan just looking in from outside may not pay best milk price but have the power to pay bonuses and end of year top ups etc as well as good feed rebates and then the spin outs etc



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