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Serious Price hike on Electricity - adding €200 to annual bill

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,346 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    LOL it is my money and I also have solar installed and am well aware of the degradation rates, solar is 0.5-1% a year, batteries are 0.5-2% depending on the what kind you got. You are acting like they are unique vs literally every other electrical appliance and battery on the market. They both pay for themselves usually after 7-8 years, and the degradation is nowhere near catastrophic by that time.

    Did you know the soles on your shoes will wear out depending on the wear you put them through? Using your logic there's no point in buying shoes……

    You're going on ignore



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Sure

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    and here are 12 months of 2024 showing most generation happening during summer with only two months of year generating more than using (the months was mostly out of house)

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    i mostly stopped load shifting from nightrate, that destroyed the battery to maybe 2/3rds capacity

    The claims are all about deep cycles, but most solar setups rapidly switch dozens of times per day from charging to discharging, today is a good example look how spiky that is (and nowhere near 4.5kw, yellow with scale on lhs)

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    I knew it be a crap day so charged to 80%



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Thanks. I'm looking at the yellow solar bar on your first pic. I'm seeing the range as between 4,100kWh and approx 4,800kWh. I'd call that well within normal variability of cloud and weather over 365 days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Nermal


    There was a time when it was the responsibility of generators to manage their supply to suit the needs of consumers. Now we have 'progressed' to the reverse.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I read this and all I can think is the nationalisation of electricity provision would be in our best interests.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Many would argue that didn't work in the 1980's.

    The pass through charges I mentioned above are going to our public (semi) state organisations, which own the grid.

    If the ESB had full control over generation and distribution I don't think they'd be very friendly with their pricing. As evidenced in the recent past in the thuggish manner they threatened the government and public with power outages when they wanted cold hard cash for themselves.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Fair point, maybe license it with contracts of agreed prices with the state for X years, kind of like a public procurement process…

    ..actually, over here, that will go terribly wrong for everyone knowing here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    The UK did something similar during the recent price hikes panic. They gave a price cap of some sort. I presume the gov paid any excess over the price cap or just did it by legislation 🤷

    We got our €150 rebates. I can't even remember how many were given out per house!



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭chalkitdown1


    Yeah, just got the email from Bord Gais. Thankfully I'm no longer a customer, haven't been for years, but still get these emails. 13.5% increase is insane.

    I'm with Electric Ireland (electricity only) and am just waiting for them to follow suit with a price increase, even though they say there won't be one. We will see….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭Simi


    Well they said they wouldn't THIS year, so they'll probably drop an increase in January. Or they're just flat out lying and trying to lure in switchers before they announce an increase 🤷



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    YEah that's what I'd be afraid of. "We said we wouldn't but we're doing it anyway"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Longing


    Bord Gais email I got said 12.1% increase. Still an insane price hike. We are already the most expensive country in the EU for electric. Now with the Government pulling back on 150 euro electric credits in the budget ahead and 3 hundred thousand in electric errors, this situation will spiral into turmoil if not addressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,763 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Same here got email today Bord Gais 12.1% from 12 October, i have only just changed to them from Electric Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    Needs a MOD to change the thread title I think. I looked, i have no edit ability on OP now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭apache


    Another one here with Bord Gais. A big increase. I think Electric Ireland customers will be safe until next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,346 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Yeah im moving from bord gais to electric ireland, they are dropping gas prices and said there will be no electricity increase this winter. You get 30 days to switch after a price hike with no contract fee.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Mod note:

    Good morning everyone.

    I changed the thread title to remove the reference to Energia. Hope that's OK.

    Thank you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭tarvis


    quite apart from the advise of the fire service to keep an eye on your machines while they are in operation. Some have been known to go on fire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,490 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    IIve Been with BG for electric for quite a few years now, as they always did me a decent discount.

    Suspect ill be moving at renewal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,007 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I looked up solar panel costs, circa €7K and repayments of a loan over six years, €120/month. Basically about the same as our electricity bill. Seems a no brainer, am I missing something?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    It's only going to reduce your electricity bill, not negate it altogether.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,346 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Yes, many many things, for example what kind of system does that 7k give you? as that will effect how much you generate along with the direction they face.

    If you have proper questions I'd suggest heading to the renewable energy section of the site, that's where i got all my questions answered



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Saw a survey recently where our electricity prices were among the most expensive in Europe. Am amazed people do not seem to care much about it, and our politicians do not seem too bothered about it either.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Second highest in world already, Bermuda is higher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,349 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I think we're all aware, the problem is that the country is restricted from doing anything about it.

    For a resource poor country like Ireland, nuclear would be one typical route to gain energy security. Unfortunately we are constitutionally barred from going down that path.

    The other option is to roll back on our carbon commitments. We could fire up the Moneypoint coal generation facility, or we look at reviving some of the baseload oil/gas generation facilities like Poolbeg. If we do that then we are liable for heavy EU carbon fines.

    That leaves us with one option, more wind and more battery storage. Not only are the capital costs with these massive (funded by higher bills), we are still going to be reliant on expensive imported gas when the wind isn't blowing (funded by higher bills).

    Post edited by Francie Barrett on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Marcos


    Except for the fact that the ESB when it was the sole provider, wasn't charged with making continually rising profits to meet shareholder demands. Before "market liberalisation" at the behest of the EU Commission, we had the second lowest electricity charges in the EU, or EC as it was then.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    It was cheap as there was oil and peat being burned to the detriment of society and our nations health. And we were probably the second poorest country in the EC anyway!

    It is difficult comparing then and now. We have to predict how a monopoly would work now, not compare to prices from 40 years ago when assets were 40 years newer. We'd still have asset replacement costs, R&D to work in renewables. We'd still have those costs via a monopoly or market liberalisation.

    Comparing then and now is a nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    I think the report also said that if you switch supplier to the lowest alternative tariff at the end of each contract year, Ireland's electricity prices are pretty much in line with the rest of Europe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Well if true nobody has read the report in that case.

    It's a psychological issue. Food, diesel, car insurance these have to be paid first on a daily or weekly basis. People who are skint have been cleaned out and then a 60 day bill comes in and it gets noticed more cos it's a lump sum of sorts.



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