Fun With Flags! DCC Edition

The lefts approach to the immigration conversation is pushing me more to the right. I was never really someone to be publicly vocal about divisive topics but I am getting more and more vocal due to the left calling everything racist and fascist.

For example, if this flag topic goes further and they take 'action', I might just end up buying some flags myself and flying them at every opportunity.

I thought about this what the anti immigration groups that fly the tricolour flags not as inclusivity but as exclusion, why do they do it?

It is not just simply racism they are afraid of being overtaken. And have to compete at the the same social level of the food chain of new arrivals.

The Irish in Boston had the same thing and they used to fight with Italian Catholics because they were a "different type" of Catholic. The Irish there had to put up with discrimination as well. For example the first Irish police chief in Boston was dimissed for nothing other than been Irish.

The problem is the cohort in Coolock, Finglas etc who fly those Irish flags as markers of exclusion rather then inclusion are likely not very educated. Having generations of non progression. Meanwhile in three/four generations the hard working migrant will have overtaken the myopic native. The "native" who had generations of early school leavers and so on and so forth. In other words short term thinking. Conflict among that cohort means violence and confrontation, rather than dialogue.

It is the same reason how those Irish who travel from rural Ireland to Dublin for work "lift" an area, they want to work hard and progress. Or how in 19th Century Dublin Portobello progressed, due to Jewish migrants social progression.

Meanwhile the tricolour flag flyers in Coolock, and Finglas, inner city Dublin stay static they don't progress.It is a cultural mindset more than anything else. The immigrant gradually progresses up the social ladder through hard work, and willingness to think long term for their future generations. Meanwhile the cohort in Finglas, Coolock etc - that fly those tricolours as markers of exclusion, stay at the same social demographic for generations. So they don't like the competition at the level they are at. And skin colour etc is the easiest identifier they have that the "other" is bypassing them. They fear "others" who want to socially progress.

The exclusionary tricolour flyers claim it is about Irishness. But in truth it is about their short term thinking mindset, which in all likelihood has meant generational non-progression up the social ladder. Because they don't know any different.

If the Irish flag offends people living in Ireland or is not considered inclusive by people living in Ireland then perhaps they ought to find another country to live in (that includes people who are irish born).

How is it not inclusive towards Jewish people? They aren't the Borg.

There is quite a sizeable amount of Jewish people who are absolutely aghast at the war criminal Netanyahu and his band of mass murdering ghouls.

They put up flags of the local GAA team on our main street when they were in the county final a couple of years ago and I wasn't consulted about it either.

Why are you folks obsessed with immigration always pro israel?

But seeing Irish flags as causing division is the problem, it's the national flag, if it causes division then it's an issue for the people who don't like it.

The supposed divineness is caused by people who seem to have some sense of shame about the country or seem to think any expression of Irishness is no longer acceptable in modern Ireland.

It seems largely people getting offended by it are Irish people getting offended on behalf of immigrants.

Also if people think it is being used for nefarious purposes then surely the best way to react is to not allow that to happen by going along with it and saying the flag is a good thing a unifying symbol for all the people living in the country and I'm happy to see them on display. The flag is everyones flag not just people with certain political views.

This is not like flying flags in the North as their is no debate over the ownership of the Irish state like their is with the 6 counties.

But shouldn't they need to get permission to hang permanent Irish flags from lampposts?

We understand the things the way they are.