Random EV Thoughts 2 - The Jimnying

Yes sorry

Really interesting take by a motoring journalist and YouTuber here. Are we going in the wrong direction with longer range EVs? Maybe lighter, shorter range EVs are the best application of the technology?

I dislike Jemma. But I think he's right on small battery light cars.

The issue is people banging on about long range non stop journeys, it's in every EV thread in boards yet is something like 4% of journeys. So that's what the market wants. Maybe cars like the Inster or R5 will change that.

I agree with you that most of us do want the security of a 400km+ range car. Especially for rural dwellers like myself. But I'm not sure that a 2 ton plus EV is the best way to get such range. I think that's the point of the video that I posted. ICE cars presently make more sense for long range journeys for many people. When the time comes for me to change cars I'll be considering an EV, mainly because my wife's car is an ICE and available for the 5% or so of journeys that need 400km continuous range. The EV then would be the runabout car, the commuting car etc. That makes sense for many households.

No one said you're deluded or ridiculous.

I said the vast majority of people do not do long journeys 400k etc. (especially non stop) that often. Statistically.

Around 50% of households have more than one car. And even if someone wants the range for that family holiday they do once a year. I doubt everyone is doing it non stop. For sure a significant number of people do non stop long journeys. Or regular long journeys I'm not denying that.

Yet huge non stop journeys comes up in probably 100% of these threads. So in every thread that's always conversion. So the people who do that are the ones setting the narrative for massive batteries.

That vlogger is in the UK and they do less average mileage than Irish drivers.

I suspect this might come full circle. People will buy a EV with less range as 2nd car. Then over time realise it's actually also ok for occasional long journeys. It's less hassle than an ice as a second car. Then start considering a smaller battery in their family car.

Or the govt continues to have no disincentives to buy a diesel and all the social media and public opinion makes non stop journeys to Berlin a must have and it collapses the EV market and we all go back to diesel to drive the kids to school. And bloggers will create videos lamenting the technology they helped to kill.

Can't see its Apartment specific.

Regarding apartment infrastructure there are rules in other countries regarding obligations to provide charging in apartments with parking.

Did I miss the joke?

Luckily it’s a free country and if someone wants to buy a long range EV the choice is ever increasing. On the flip side, the options for smaller, cheaper EVs is also increasing which is fantastic for those who want them. A win win for all.

I don’t get the hysteria about the EV market collapsing. Unless I’m missing something, the EV market share is increasing yoy and this will accelerate as more manufacturers release lower cost smaller EVs for those who want them.

Some people seem to retain a fixation on smashing the poor old diesel which only became a problem in this country on the back of deluded Govt environmental policy. That era is over. Seems to me the next battle line could well be around people telling others what size battery they can have in their EV.

May as well kick off and see what size battery would you consider acceptable for a family car? Maybe we would open up a separate thread along the lines of another beauty based on some people’s strident views on people buying unnecessarily large cars, aka SUVs.