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Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Munster has now got a bulk RVM at Collin's SuperValu Carrigaline.

    New bulk deposit return machine installed in Cork's largest town - Cork Beo https://share.google/zIGHCk78pkTRoZXwq



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,442 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Do people with bags use the little hook on the machines? This picture is not from Ireland, but I have seen them on machines here. Just hang the bag by one of its handles and it frees up both hands.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Here's a novel idea.

    A petition looking for a bulk RVM in Edenderry. Co. Offal.

    Bulk Re-Turn Machine for Edenderry | MyUplift https://share.google/KLeX19p5QRpveemMm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,318 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Those elusive and highly desirable bin surrounds are pointless exercise. Every street bin in Limerick had lock broken long time ago as they are rummaged through several times a day and night. Not only that they go through everything that people put in there most of the time they don't bother put wheelie bin back inside.

    This scheme simply brought in more problems with littering than advocates of it claiming how great it is to manage dumping of bottles or cans. People still dump bottles and cans on side of the road deposit or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,543 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Any ones I've seen have been filled with gunk from the cans



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Not Limerick (Dublin) but I think this the sort of thing you mean. Slow clap for lack of any deposit items in the next IBAL report please.

    Maybe unredeemed deposits could pay for better litter collection on our streets?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I don't see much connection between that scene and DRS.

    The people who dumped the stuff, presumably because the bin was full, are primarily responsible.

    If the local authority are not emptying the bins as regularly as they should they need to do better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Another bulk machine.

    This time in Lidl Mullingar.

    Lidl Ireland launches bulk feed reverse vending machine https://share.google/bWDQPRyStlKqeSI6y



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,703 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Whoever wrote that advertorial obviously thinks Mullingar is part of the UK. The second bit of it is all about Scotland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Moral of the story, never trust an organisation with "global" in it's title 🙂

    Re-turn has a handy map for anyone looking for directions.

    Lidl Mullingar (Bulk RVM) - Patrick Street - Store Detail - Re-Turn https://share.google/4Sk6J1PPNFaBBgTqU



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,937 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    My local Lidl is about to reopen after a rebuild, would be quite useful if they'd put one in there - to reduce the times I go to my local shop and find Tidy Towns or another collector with three sacks in front of me!

    Shop near my office has moved their machine to right inside the front door recently as collectors with sacks were blocking the aisle they'd installed it on originally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I went to my local Lidl yesterday evening but both machines were inaccessible. They weren't just out of order, the shutters were down on them. It was over two hours before the shop was closing so it wasn't because of that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭bluedex


    Those f***ers with sacks full of stuff deserve a special place in hell

    Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Probably out of order.

    You could report it to Re-turn but I wouldn't hold your breath.

    They are supposed to have the RVMs working when the shop is open



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    The only answer for them is the bulk RVM.

    Retribution in the afterlife won't help the rest of us in the here and now 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I used an RVM at a shop in Offaly last year.

    It was sited in a car park across the road which was very convenient.

    You could park right beside it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭George White


    I see the Polish shops are now badging bottles with the re-turn symbol on a sticker, but a lot of them don't seem to be recognised. I also noticed tesco adding tthe 25c charge to bottles that didn't have the mark.

    My local machine in the Centra on Boghall Road will often suck in bottles but not give any money for them. So if you put in 5 25c bottles, it'll give 75 c not a euro. And no one in the shop will do anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,676 ✭✭✭Field east


    But it becomes €33 if you discount it for new borns , infants , people that do not buy the stuff. People that might buy one bottle a week, etc, etc, etc. you. Could end up with the population, that are serial drinkers of coke , Fanta, beer, water, lucosade, etc. of circa 2 million



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,676 ✭✭✭Field east


    This whole thing about “what will I do with the sweet paper or the chocolate wrapper or the empty drinks can or the empty tayto bag now that I have eaten/emptied the contents” is a habit / cultural thing. The weight or size of these things has practically nothing to do with how they might be disposed of. We have ALL KINDS OF CONVIENCES to assist us in carrying things like plastic bags , cars , bicycle carriers, backpacks, etc. And VERY FEW of us walk anyplace now so we are doing VERY LITTLE HEAVY LIFTING



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    There are "dodgy" cans and bottles around.

    I've seen them left in the reject bin or on top of the RVM.

    Obviously I don't know for sure if deposits were paid on them but I suspect at least some had.

    If a shop charges you a deposit and the RVM doesn't return it you need to go back and complain.

    You'll have a better chance of success at Tesco where if a deposit is incorrectly charged it's most likely an error.

    As for the RVM at Centra, they owe you 50c not 25c.

    There's not much use they having stickers all over the shop saying "50c off" if they are ripping you off at the RVM .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭George White


    I meant to say 4 not 5.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    People engaged in outdoor pursuits IE. angler, hill walkers are well used to packing up their bottles, wrapping etc. and bringing them home.

    Anyone going to an outdoor event where they may be purchasing drinks or food needs to plan ahead how to deal with empties etc.

    A small backpack does the trick and you could save yourself a few euro by filling a re-useable water bottle from the tap at home as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Orban6


    I wonder where the machine is situated. I was in that shop last week and didn't notice it.

    As an aside, I have noticed that they pump some fragrance into the air just inside the entrance where the normal machines are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Sorry, I don't know, I was just working from media reports.

    It's the store near the canal.

    The fragrance will make a change from the smell of fresh bread 🍞 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,867 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Thanks for clarifying.

    The principle is the same though.

    Complain and escalate if necessary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,229 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭George White


    I wish they'd make the tokens universal. Again, supermarkets taking the control of the project was a mistake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,307 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    A full black sack of bottles/cans, filled to top, usually returns around 17 euro



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,351 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    A mistake is something that's an oversight, something that wasn't foreseen.

    I think the fact that there's no universality in tokens was built in I'd say.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,318 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    No, I did not mean this. What you show is normal stuff which happened before and will happen again deposits or not. It is how bins look like after nights out mostly weekends. Bin on your picture is simply full and what it show is council failure to better manage emptying them or perhaps putting in few more.

    What I said is that bins look like this on any given night not just weekend nights because return pirates simply pull out wheelie bin empty it on the street, go through content to find treasure and leave it like that after they finish. That is extra littering this scheme brought in despite claims it was introduced to decrease littering.



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