Israel/Palestine Thread

Hamas and their allies like Islamic Jihad and others are continuing to fight effectively.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/new-hamas-insurgency

Our neutrality doesn't stop us starting a war or joining anyone else in a war. It is an issue for our un membership, but thats not a problem for israel or russia, so we just call it a special peace keeping mission, and bombs away. Its not a constitutional matter.

Ironic that a US citizen is asking them to be "civilised" when their own country complicit in perpetrating Genocide.

You are aware that Israel is simply not letting those 6000 aid trucks in? And you're aware that they have demonstrably lied that there is no starvation/famine?

If israel says no to what exactly? That the UN cannot access Gaza? Are you aware that Gaza is not Israel?

A UN mandate per Higgins' suggestion.

Haaretz a bit quieter tonight after yesterdays "deep regrets for the the tragic mishap that occurred at the Nasser Hospital in Gaza" from alleged War Criminal #1 (at large).

But, Settlers are settling, France and Italy continue to stick the boot in and alleged War Criminal #1 (at large) called out yet again for telling porkies.

• A group of settlers attacked Palestinians and Israeli activists with clubs in the South Hebron Hills on Tuesday, wounding seven, four of whom were taken to the hospital, the activists told Haaretz. According to the activists, the settlers were grazing their sheep in privately owned Palestinian land near the village of Qawawis before the attack. Police were called, but soon left without interfering. About 20 minutes later, the settlers attacked them with pepper spray, stole a cellphone and camera, and smashed the solar panels and windows of homes and vehicles nearby.
• French President Macron warned PM Netanyahu in a letter that Israel's plan to occupy Gaza City will only deepen the country's isolation and strengthen those who use Israel's actions in Gaza "as a pretext for antisemitism." Macron said "France cannot resign itself to see a friend like Israel descend into a spiral of violence which runs contrary to its history," adding that "nothing can justify" the humanitarian disaster in Gaza.
• Italian PM Giorgia Meloni said in a speech that there have been "too many innocent victims" in Gaza, citing the "unjustifiable" killing of five journalists in Nasser Hospital on Monday as "an unacceptable attack on freedom of the press." Meloni reiterated Italy's support for Israel's right to self-defense following Hamas' assault on October 7, 2023, but stressed that "at the same time, we cannot remain silent now, in the face of a reaction that has gone beyond the principle of proportionality.''
• "While Netanyahu and Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer sold Trump an aggressive campaign to eliminate Hamas and bring about the end of the war, making the negotiations over a partial hostage deal superfluous, the Israeli military is telling its political overseers something completely different, sources in Washington confirmed to Haaretz… Netanyahu's marketing was too aggressive, as usual, and he promised Trump an unsustainable plan – defeating Hamas within just a few weeks" – Chaim Levinson

I think that poster accused me of "spouting a load of bollocks". The irony must be lost on them.

I'm not familiar with Chapter 7 but what I've seen posted makes perfect sense. I've just posted yet more condemnations from States (Fr and It) - but words will do nothing. The UN has to get involved. If it doesn't, its a busted flush and utterly useless in the face of an entire population being wiped out - and its 2025, not 1945…

Higgins highlighting that the UN can actually do something and that is commendable - but he's probably also tacitly pointing out that there must be reasons why no-one else is pointing it out. I've not heard of any other leader calling out Chapter 7. The elephant in the room.

Higgins, and by extension, Ireland, can hold its hands up and clearly say that it has done as much as it can to prevent this Genocide. Others, not so much.

I recall the vitriol on here when Ireland enjoined the SA case at the ICJ - I'd hope those posters are ashamed of themselves but I'd guess most are actually still full of hate and anger about it.

Their absence after 691 days of slaughter by Israel is telling, isn't it?

But there'll still be silly buggers spouting a load of bollocks I guess.