Israel/Palestine Thread

I know well it's not incompetence, my point is even someone as blinkered as velvet cake man would have to conclude if it's purely all down to mistakes then the IDF is wholly incompetent. Of course he knows full well that it's not down to incompetence at all. With this in mind as we have seen over the last 24 months the Israeli army show remarkable competence and sophistication when targeting external enemies abroad.

They did target the camera, it was a journalists camera

AActions Are "completely unacceptable "

Yet they will go on. So they are either unacceptable or they aren't.

Time for all nations to stand up. Invade the **** place if you have to!!

Well Ireland won't be involved in any invasion! Anyway, it won't happen, the slaughter will continue it looks like. America is about the only country that can stop this, but Trump is on Nethanyahus side.

Which country is gonna grow a pair of bollix first and ban entry for anyone that has ever served for the IDF?

That 'threat' made to Australia is absolutely shocking, and comes from an internationally wanted war criminal. Like wtf are we doing by even entertaining demands he makes to others?

Please YES.

This is looooonng overdue....

It isn’t ignorant in the slightest. He is talking about using a big stick to hold over the Israeli heads while aid is sent in. Something I completely agree should happen. The problem is the Israeli state has been working of the preface that the whole world hates it and wants to invade since pretty much it’s inception.

what exactly can Ireland contribute to this big stick other than a few lightly armed soldiers in shoguns?

Maybe a good idea for them to expel the Israeli ambassador due to it's ongoing mass extermination and forced starvation of a 2 million people also now, just to avoid accusations of double standards. It's not as if they need an investigation or anything to prove it. Then again they might get told off for being antisemitic or something something.

Israel seems happy now they have done something they have been asking for a long time. Not a shred of evidence presented against a country that has the largest Jewish population outside of Israel in the middle east, all rights respected and with plenty of synagogues to vandalise if they wanted.

Don't know about hypocritical, but it does seem inconsistent, as thought his usual view was that of a pacifist?

Now maybe he's okay with recruitment, defence spending and building arms for a kind of Earth army that serves a global government (which might use it to intervene in situations like this), but we don't live in that Star Trek (fantasy) world.

A UN mission needs countries that want to take part in it, and also nation state militaries strong enough to be able to contribute and achieve it.

We would not be able for participation in an imaginary mission to compel Israel to stop and let aid in at anything beyond a token level IMO.

if this supposed clause in article 7 allows the general assembly to create a force without UNSC approval, then that covers the triple lock and going into a UN sanctioned mission with other countries has **** all to do with this supposed “neutrality”, so yeah, not ignorant at all thanks.

I think it's very clear what's he's bloody saying. He's looking to have a UN force set up to help get the flow of much needed aid into Gaza, because what's being let in now is a fraction of what's needed because Israel want to starve people.

There's no "inconsistency" or anything else here. It's pretty straightforward.

Any pushback against what he's saying is just the usual guff from certain quarters because Higgins is "tHe lEfT". 🙄

And this has nothing to do with pacifism either. You can be a pacifist and still be in favour of using a military body to facilitate humanitarian operations.