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Is Dublin really safe? *Read OP for mod warning*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭RoryMurphyJnr


    If I perceive it to be unsafe then I don't feel safe in it.
    Whether stats prove it one way or the other doesn't make any difference.
    If you had stats saying it's 100% safe I still choose to believe otherwise based on my experiences



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    That's your choice to feel that, doesn't make it a fact.

    Dublin is a safe city by all metrics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    You asked what city in europe people consider safe. Ive been in 3 swiss cities multiple times and id 100% feel/consider then safe.

    I didnt say they had no crime.

    Edit- to add Ifeel safe in Dublin. I socialise in the CC once a month on average. Its got it issues but tis my city.

    But the difference between a Basel and Dublin is night and day regarding police presence and general degenerates/junkies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Yet on this thread posters will link to an article which shows a crime occurring in Dublin as proof that it isn't a safe city?

    Crime happens in all cities, it doesn't mean they're all not safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Ive added an edit to my reply just for full disclosure on my position.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Packrat


    I quoted you and responded a couple of pages back.

    Endless whataboutery questions don't change the fact that Dublin is a run down scrote infested kip by comparison with most European cities.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Tell us how you really feel.

    A lot on here just seem to have a vendetta against Dublin.

    Where you in the city over the weekend at all? Place was absolutely packed with American tourists since Thursday for the college football match, all bar & restaurants packed. Atmosphere around the city was incredible all weekend. 13k wrestling fans on Friday night, 80k for Robbie Williams and 50k for the college football.

    No visible trouble, plenty of Garda presence and

    A far cry from the "run down scrote infested kip" you wrongly think that it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,766 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    It's the same on all social media but people obsessed with immigration are always on the dublin is the biggest kip in the world bandwagon. They seem to overlap quite a bit those views, not just in Ireland, American right wing go on about how dangerous cities are, same with English reform types.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,864 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    You’re not in the city and you’re getting your info from social media.
    No wonder you think Dublin is dangerous if that’s all you’re looking at. What you’re seeing online are groups: addicts (that can barely walk) fighting each other, teens up to no good with each other, and drug activity. Unless you’re an addict, buying drugs, or joining in with antisocial behaviour, you’re not going to be harmed. The more you watch, the more you’re fed, and you just lap it up and regurgitate it here. If you’d actually been in town last weekend you’d have seen a very different Dublin than the one on your phone. Put the phone down and come visit before the summer’s over.. PM me if you want tips on where to go, I’ll sort you out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Absolutely great buzz around the city. All summer.

    Weather has helped but its been years since I've seen the city so vibrant. Gigs on everywhere, little flea markets and festivals, most decent restaurants and pubs rammed. Capel St a big success, albeit still evolving. Stonybatter its own area now. Like a northside Camden St. A lot of the North inner city is a wasteland mind you. But it always has been.

    But summer 2025 defo a huge success. Especially considering the amount of events on.

    Someone should do a Venn diagram of the "Dublin is a dangerous kip" people and heavy Twitter use.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    I have lived in a lot of Cities in Europe and further…

    Dublin is bang average… Stockholm to me was very safe, Paris can be pretty bad… But that is based on my feeling…

    Statswise Dublin pretty good…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,280 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Yes, with the exception of La Rambla in Barcelona, I would consider them to be safe cities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,407 ✭✭✭tara73


    this can go on for endless hundreds more pages and there will be no conclusion. also very difficult to compare it with other european cities. there are surely statistics but how to compare? numbers of murder / robberies/ break ins etc. in the city center and then compare it in relation to population or area ? could be a way to have some numbers from stats, if the statistics really counting in all the same in different countries is another vagueness. difficult as I said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Yeah, thanks for the invite, but I've been in Dublin (city centre) about 25 to 30 nights this year so far (which is probably more than most of you defending it) - I'll pass.

    Enough to have to be there for work...

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,024 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Packrat


    I am. Loads of it. Wish I could say the same, but hey ho..

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,864 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Were you working in the city centre as a taxi driver or some sort of busman's holiday? You're probably getting a different view of life in Dublin when you're working like that. I’m talking socialising, checking out restaurants, museums, galleries, bars, live music, parks, beaches, the Dublin mountains, the rivers, even just walking around soaking up the atmosphere, that’s a very different experience to working with people that customers or colleagues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Working with high end customers visiting all of the above, over multiple days. Being harassed by the crack zombies and paper cup scrotes every step of the way.

    SIck of apologizing to our paying visitors and trying to explain why its such a sh1thole. They are usually very nice, but they are always surprised at the general decay and scumminess of the place.

    On the bright side, I've noticed that many of our top agents aren't sending guests there anymore unless they specifically ask. Recent anecdotal info from my colleagues confirms this.

    I lived in Dublin from 2011 to 2015, and enjoyed it, but glad to be away from what it has become in the interm.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    There are plenty of European cities where you'll be offered drugs first thing in the morning just walking around, or have people ask you for change or lads offering you a few bracelet only to hassle you for a donation afterwards. Give me a beggar/junkie looking for change over those bracelet lads any day of the week. The beggars/junkies leave you alone after you say no. Those bracelet lads just keep bothering you or grab your hand to put the bracelet on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,864 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Every step of the way? I don't think so, did a good few walking tours this summer and while maybe one or two beggars asked for change there was no way that type of hassle. I've also been at a few corporate events for after show gigs in the city, very little experience of what you're describing and the visitors were loving the city.

    Either way, no sense of danger from this post.

    Looking at your previous posting it seems you simply hate Dublin, have a mild obsession about it, perceive that the city and its residents as lacking authenticity and connection to Irish cultural roots, although you're from the Dublin suburbs, you don't spend any time in the city and I think you're making things up now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭sekiro


    Would it not be fairer to say that parts of Dublin are not safe?

    I think it's very possible to walk from Trinity up Grafton Street all the way up to Rathmines and feel like the city is actually quite a nice place. Plenty of good restaurants and bars. Around Harcourt and Merion Square etc are all very passable.

    Walk from Five Lamps down to Amiens Street then along Talbot Street to Henry/Mary Street and spend any amount of time around that area of Parnell Street and Moore Street etc and you would very likely not have such a nice time.

    Getting on the LUAS at any time of the day can be an adventure, to say the least. Or completely uneventful. It's the luck of the draw, really.

    Overall though I think anyone saying that Dublin is fine, or has a great atmosphere and so on, basically has no standards. Large parts of the city are a filthy rotten mess but because there are a few nice areas people are willing to ignore the bad. Sure I was up at Camden Street having overpriced food and drinks with my friends the other weekend and it was nice so Dublin is not a kip!

    I find it a little sad that the people who live in Dublin obviously take pride in their city but not enough pride to actually clean the place up. So long as all the filth is kept to certain less fashionable areas people are fine with it. Who cares if you have to step over a half dozen homeless and run the gauntlet of junkies and scum on your way to a gig.

    An awful lot of people are in denial about how bad the situation actually is in some parts of the city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,766 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Are you saying its dangerous to walk from the 5 lamps to Henry St? This is something I do regularly as I live near the 5 lamps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭sekiro


    To be fair Thelonious, I've seen your posts on here for many years and you strike me as the kind of guy if I said I had Covid 19 was very sick with it you'd counter with "well, I've had Covid 20 and Covid 21 at the same time and I was fine".

    If I've just been on a trip to Tenerife, Thelonious here went to Elevenerife.

    You're just a contrarian. That's your style.

    Damn, the cost of a pint is so expensive in Dublin. Oh no, actually Thelonious Monk gets pints at his local every Friday and they are so cheap!

    I stand by what I said. Anyone who thinks that area around 5 lamps is fine has absolutely no standards whatsoever. The place is a kip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭sekiro


    Whenever I travel outside of Dublin to smaller villages and towns I feel that there's a much greater sense if community and pride in the place. People actually seem to care about their place.

    Like there are parts of Dublin, around 5 lamps is a great example of this, where dog sh*t all over the streets is pretty much a permanent feature of the place and the people who live there just don't seem to care.

    I understand that people can get defensive when it comes to stuff like this. I used to get really annoyed when relatives living outside of Dublin would get into their "Dublin is dangerous" speech because I felt like in some way I was being personally attacked.

    The truth is though that Dublin can be a very unpleasant place and if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time it can be a very dangerous city indeed.

    The number of wrong places and the volume of wrong times is gradually increasing while people are just in complete denial. "Well, nothing like that ever happened to me!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,616 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    The truth is though that <Insert town/city name> can be a very unpleasant place and if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time it can be a very dangerous city indeed.

    More accurate…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,766 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I was pretty sick when I had covid for a few days.

    You have to understand that it's so weird being told how dangerous where you live is when everyone I know and myself get along just fine here every day, as does everyone that lives around here. The area around 5 lamps has some deprived residents but you are not going to get randomly assaulted.

    The presence of litter and heroin addicts is not dangerous.

    The contrarions here are the weirdos telling us how dangerous Dublin is when the rest of us carry on with our lives here no bother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I live in Tallaght and am constantly reminded how its dodgy by people who dont live there.

    Bar the odd waste bin being nicked I've never had issues since I moved there. But that doesnt mean I think its as pleasant or safe as blackrock. Or that it has no issues.

    Two things/truths can coexist and opinions will always differ.

    You are fairly dogmatic in your views from what i can gather from your posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,766 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I think people are confusing litter and tracksuits with safety is the problem



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I dont think you speak for people. There are scales. The way you go on theres no difference in anything anywhere ever.

    Its all just one big homogeneous blur.



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