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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    you’re obviously an expert in every field of farming bass I won’t argue any more with you. I’ve a lot of reseeding done in my 12 years farming

    . It’s getting reseeded with the grass Harrow. You need a clean cut sward to get the best results from it and if the sward is brown all you’ll do is drag trash every where.

    It’s getting round up power max, if you’ve never used it then you can’t pass comment, it’s by far superior stuff. I’ve branches and hedges to clean back on it so it’ll probably get left till next week to spray off now because you can’t touch field hedges till September 1st L. Itll get 3 runs of the grass Harrow, sown on the 3rd run, rolled, 3k gallons of collecting yard slurry and 3t of lime per acre after that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭straight


    I have taken about 300 surplus bales off my 100 acre milking block this year. I have the cows in high fields now that I can't bale and it's a 50 day rotation. Just can't get around to it all. I'll have about 10 ton of pasture sward that I won't spread from my allowance. Hoping for a similarly good backend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,809 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Hide the pasture sward down the back of the farm

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    And meanwhile I'm on 6kg feed in parlour and feeding bales just to try to keep some grass in the diet. Growth of 10 here last week. We haven't had a drop of rain in over 5 weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭straight


    I find a 30 day rotation saves alot of buffering and moving up and down in nuts. It give you a buffer of a different sort throughout the year. I didn't feed silage all year but it got tight at times and I had the buffer in the paddocks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    The lads that put these in are long gone id say, was it the 1950's their was grants for land drainage with the clay pipes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,603 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I think they were being used up to the early 80's. There was a stack of them here in the yard and field I remember left over from a job. It was really stone made drains, the clay sets, the yellow coil piping. And now yellow coil or those pipes with felt covering.

    Have you your own digger Jay?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    Anybody investing outside their farms? Houses, shops or other businesses, with derogation looking like it's on the way out a revenue stream from somewhere else would be a lifesaver for a smaller farm.

    On my own farm I'm looking into converting an old building into 2 one bed apartments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Danny healy ray


    if derogatory goes it could see milk and cattle price go to what was never taught possible supplies just won't be there I think we're in for a golden age in agriculture



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,055 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    Farms, coops and factories go bust is what will happen rather than huge price increases.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭WoozieWu


    prices will rise and fall but its clear we have already had peak milk and beef production on this island and its only going to shrink from here on in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    Do you have a crystal ball? At the time of the beef plan, Protestors were campaigning for €5/kg and folks thought they were mad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,060 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Thanls be to god the grass nearly grew itself this year. Have a load of topping, spraying and reseeding to do to get things back under control after neglecting things while oh was ill etc. Cows milking well though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Danny healy ray


    and what are people going to eat ?? berry's off the trees



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    you’ll see milk from America and meat from south America on the shelves here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Beef shortage out their, has lead to a situation where the profit now is the beef calf and the cows are been milked to facilitate that, severe shortage of milking heifers and prices heading north of 4k out their currently



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    No, a really good local man does all the digger work here, very reasonably priced would be no saving over doing it in-house



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭straight


    This is what I pick up at the local Co-Op. It's doing fine for me. Wouldn't be in the best part of the country for clover.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte




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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Meat from Argentina is already here. Or it was before anyway. There was a few pics on Twitter a while back of vacuum-packed meat with 'Product of Argentina' printed very small on the back. I think it was Super-Valu and the only people who noticed were some farmers - they're the ones highlighted it.

    I doubt the majority of people here will care where their beef comes from, no more than we notice or care where our fish comes from. So, you could be right about that - Mercosur or whatever the next EU agreement is called could well open the door fully for South American beef.

    I'd be more hopeful that dairy products might not be imported from the USA into Europe. Cheese and whey/protein powder might travel OK but fresh milk and yogurt don't have as much of a shelf-life.

    I've no crystal ball thou so who knows what'll happen.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭straight


    Are you in a tourism area? Will you AirBNB them?

    In year 9 here in my own name. Whether it's right or wrong it's my last big push finalising farm investment. Paying down land debt next year. Looking around at a property in the local city after that for children going to college in a few years time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭daiymann 5


    Theres a shortage if incalf heifers as farmers were scared to not use sexed as was advised then alot of surplus were sold in spring for beef around 1200.Cant see farmers paying anything near 4k ..2k will top them and it will only be for this year anyone apart from tb needing heifers has themselves to blame and would better doing without.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,853 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Read the market and cmms numbers ….2 k been paid already forcincslf heifers for next spring and they are hard got …..numbers in system tell there is a big shortage of dairy stock in country and it will continue ….it o isn’t anything really to do with sexed …all the advice was to use bar minimum dairy stock and dbi for beef on rest …twas a great piece of advice alright ….granted great money in beef atm but big shortage of dairy replacements



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    I'm about 10 mins from Kilkenny city, so might be a possibility for Airbnb.

    In an intensive dairy area here so buying land or even rent is almost impossible, most farm investment is done in terms of sheds and milking parlour and I don't see the point in putting money into those things if I'm going to be told I've to cut more numbers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭degetme


    If derogation goes will there be still big money for dairy stock



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,975 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Friend of my wife has an air bnb near kilkenny. Reckons there's no money in it if you had to borrow money to fix up a place. Also wasn't really expecting to be tied to it as much. Most of the stays were for one night and she has to be there most mornings to get it ready for next quests. Maybe you can say 2 night only on air bnb website to give you more time. Im not sure. Kinda put me off the idea



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭older by the day


    You would want deep pockets to be going renovating or building these days. The problem is the euro is gone very weak.

    Post edited by older by the day on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,809 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Na not an expert just listen to them when they are talking to me and learn from them. Virtually all of what I posted there was explained to me by an agronomist from a grass seed company. He visited a reseed I did in May 2019 at the behest of the contractor. It's was reseeded while I was in Australia visiting my lad who was there at the time.

    I went out of my way to meet him there and when I did I listened. I am a very good listener when someone who is an expert s explaining something. I generally have an agnostic view of lads selling stuff who I view as snake oil salesmen. I had bought the seed off them but it was the contractor who actually knew the agronomist who got him out.

    It transpired we went in too early and too heavy with the roundup on ground after Kale. To top it off the contractor used only a ring roller after the disc, it's should have been rolled with an ordinary roller as well. The weeds came before the grass and the docks were not properly killed by the roundup.

    But then every days a school day.......if you want to listen.

    However when you do not want to listen or think you know more it very important to attack the messenger not the message.

    Slava Ukrainii



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