Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

I really doubt they are filling any gap, I really doubt we need 30-40k non EU workers per year and last but not least I really doubt any significant effort was made to recruit locally and from EEC before going to fekin India.

https://www.thejournal.ie/investigates-fine-gael-nurse-agency-fees-6784617-Aug2025/

FG member having a vested interest to import nurses from India using those indian councillors company is a much better explanation. I'm sure it's not the only one, I'm sure there's others agencies connected to Irish government pushing their own interests. THAT will explain the surge in Indian migration.

Tech industry just went to a contraction, plenty of layoffs happened in the past few months, there is no shortage at the moment. Actually I'm sure there's plenty of them still living here even though they shouldn't.

What you're saying is true of course, the multi nationals couldn't care less. The other side is they have brought jobs to Ireland that wouldn't have been here but for the low corporate tax.

But certainly they should have only very minimal input into Irish immigration policy, which has to be in the best interests of the Irish people. Obviously with a severe housing crisis it is important that immigration is reduced dramatically, so while we may need nurses and doctors, the amount of other workers coming has to be reduced.

I think I can understand why our government would be terrified to reduce legal immigration. By reducing the size of our economy we would be 'effectively' increasing the size of our debt, which is massive really but manageable on current trajectory.

Back in 2008 I remember the Shinners spouting the populist 'Not one red cent', 'Burn the bondholders' stuff to which Brian Lenihan Jr (Rip) said 'I'm not going to put the country through a nuclear winter of job losses' - in came the IMF, Nama, up went the debt but indeed the economy survived.

Now I think this is where it all went wrong. We should have let the forest burn down naturally and started again. We got a recovery, some folks got out of negative equity and there are nice jobs but we still have an enormous debt that we need to inflate our way out of, via immigration. We couldn't face the job losses then so instead, 17 years later everything is rosy except for now we are ultimately selling off our culture, political representation and property rights.

Should've burnt the bondholders. It would have been harder but we'd have recovered quicker, debt free in a less affluent but more familiar Ireland.

Hungary exempts women from income tax for life if they have 3 children. Granted that's the long game but it's a proper solution.

We should do something like that and gear it in a way that it's only for indigenous Irish people. We need to birth our way out of this mess.

We want the Irish population to grow faster than the non-Irish population, in order to preserve, Ireland.

Im in favour of organic population growth. It allows services, infrastructure and society to keep up to some degree.

The artificial growth we are seeing is putting pressure on all of those things in a very negative way.

it'll be interesting to see where they actually put them. where would we put them if we stopped using hotels?

where would we put them if we stopped using hotels

Ideally, on a plane back home.

Not on hotels, not on any places that will disrupt an established community.

We don't have the facilities to temporary house them or even to hold them while we process them - then we need to turn them back as soon as they arrive.

how? they have no ID and have the right to claim asylum, I think many come over the border from the UK. you can't just send them back somewhere. i don't know why we have to keep going over this on this thread.

so where do you keep them while you process them?

They only have that right because we choose to honour it. We don't have to do so. If we don't, they'll go somewhere else.

Those born overseas to both Irish parents are automatically given irish citizenship and do not need to register the foreign birth . The numbers are likely low and not accounted for by the CSO .

Pretty sure most homeless Irish on the streets have bed options if they want them there were 92 or something in Dublin at last count I remember.

I guess we'll just keep filling abandoned buildings and then they'll sooner or later have to build accom for them or tent cities or something.

Put them nowhere, shouldn't they face the same as an Irish person who finds themselves homeless?