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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,575 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I'd swear that if you looked up the word "incompetence" in the dictionary, you'd see a pic of DJT...

    "Documents with sensitive details about the meeting between President Trump and Russian President Putin were left behind on a public hotel printer."

    Two of the documents...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    There will be European leaders there which will help keep Trump in check

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,868 ✭✭✭Tenzor07




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I read a headline this evening stating it (Jesus, I hope it is true)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,868 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Nope.. Like I said.. Zelensky is a Lamb going to be slaughtered by Trump..



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,133 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I think this is grossly underestimating the capabilities of Zelensky. Worst case scenario is that the US pulls back its already downscaled funding. But Zelensky won't be browbeaten, not by a disgusting coward he clearly despises.

    Trump himself has mentioned the next step in terms of negotiations is another meeting involving Zelensky and Europeans. Of course he also intimated it might be in Moscow which is never going to happen (I have little doubt Trump would go there, but not anyone else).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,784 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It's about the only time I'd say Trump is innocent. It was all Musk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,868 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    We already know that Trump regards Zelensky as "Not holding any of the cards" and he will frame Zelensky as the one who's against peace and "risking World War 3" by not ceding to Putin's demands… just look at the level of respect and admiration for Putin by Trump.. any hope that Nato/EU leaders had of Trump's position on Putin changing I think are gone now after their reunion…

    Two best friends: (in a car with no one listening, no microphones nothing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,625 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Your posts are getting more laughable with your attempts to ignore just how much Putin has whipped Trump`s ass.

    Trump was going to impose sanctions if there was no ceasefire. Not only was there no ceasefire and yet another TACO, he now agrees with Putin that there should not be a ceasefire and any mention of sanctions have disappeared.

    He is a two term president who showed in his first term in Helsinki he was Putin`s lapdog, now in his second term he has just shown he is Putin`s whipped little puppy and has ran away with his tail between his legs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭nachouser


    "Trump supports Ukrainian land cession as part of peace plan – report

    Following his meeting with Vladimir Putin on Friday, Donald Trump told European leaders that he supported a plan to end the Ukraine-Russia war by ceding unconquered land to Russia, the New York Times reported, citing two senior European officials.

    The officials said Trump will discuss the plan with Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Monday when the Ukrainian president visits the White House, adding that European leaders have been invited to join.

    Reports of Trump supporting a potential land cession marks a shift in Trump’s previous demands of an immediate ceasefire.

    According to the New York Times, Trump believes a peace deal can be swiftly negotiated, “so long as Mr Zelenskyy agrees to cede the rest of the Donbas region to Russia, even those areas not occupied by Russian troops”.

    Speaking to the outlet, senior officials said that Putin in return offered a ceasefire across the rest of Ukraine at current battle lines and a written promise to not attack Ukraine or any other European country again."

    Because land cession has always worked out well in the past, particularly in the U.S.

    /s



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,625 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    For an innocent man he is spending a lot of time and effort attempting to keep the Epstein files under wraps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,385 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    There is no keeping Trump in check. He'll say whatever based on who he's talking to and carry on as he always does.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,625 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    There really is no end to how incompetent this shower of imbeciles are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    How can anything be taken seriously when a venue is called the "Billy Mitchell Room"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,784 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I only said he's innocent in relation to falling out with Musk.

    I don't know how good these Epstein files are, I think there's more dirr hidden somewhere that's much more damning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,705 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Definitely intensional. I wouldn't praise the Independent that often but those are great photos and well picked by the editor.

    Well Trump has already met Putin in Alaska, Russia so he should be fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭mountain


    according to BBC Starmer is singing the praises of Trump, Zelenskyy must be despairing of ever getting full Western backing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,426 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Surely named after US Royalty... the King of Kong

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Europe seems desperate to keep in with Trump can't see them going it alone against Putin .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,705 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    He already has as much backing as he is gonna get from Europe and I'm sure he knows that.

    He is also smart enough to ignore talk and worry about facts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,625 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    The files were good enough for him to initially look for them to be released, but that was before he knew what was in them, which to say the least is highly suspicious.

    I agree that there is more damning hidden dirt, and after yesterday`s sham that Putin is holding it over his head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,868 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    I would suspect that Russia has a full copy of the Epstein files and know what happened to Epstein himself…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


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    I was surprised he didn't give Alaska back to Russia while he was there though it sounds like the dumb fück doesn't even know it's a US state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Yeah, love the tough look The Angel Barack gave Putin.

    What year was it that Russia invaded the Crimea and who was in the White House then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,385 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Well if Putin does then so should the other western secret services.I hope if that is anyway correct that Trump comes to believe Zelenskyy and co also do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭Flex


    I also said previsouly the US would come up with some outrageous 'peace agreement' with Russia and when it was rejected they would use it as a cassus belli against us and Ukraine, I believe that is what will happen in the coming month. Ths is exactly what I’ve been expecting for some time now. Trump, the “expert negotiator,” not just accepted everything Russia currently occupies, he’s signalling support for additional concessions. In effect, he’s rewarding Putin’s aggression and legitimising war crimes under the guise of a peace plan. The USA is bowing to a foreign government and legitismising and putting their reputation behind their war crimes, as well as deploying their own military (masked up) on their own cities under blatent lies. Ill add that hopefully Trump only conceded additional land to that which Russia currently occupies, he may have conceded Russia gets to abduct and Russify more children beyond the 20,000 already kidnapped, Trump being keenly interested in young children that this is probably something he discussed with Putin.

    The Republican party in the USA no longer exists as we knew it, this is the MAGA party. We're at a stage in political science now in the USA thats been studied and identified called "norm erosion" where the US has become a fascist state built around personality cult, and has been shown now to in effect be a satellite state of Russia. And there will not be free and fair elections there again.

    Having been in Poland, Germany, and Romania for the past number of weeks they are fully expecting war, and openly discussing it, within the next 3-5 years, literally. Any complacency that would tend to dismiss this, believing Russia has been exposed as a paper tiger in Ukraine misses the fact that the actual new danger is that the United States is a satellite/client state of Moscow. I previously said the USA and Russia (and ISrael) were a new axis, however Russia is clearly the dominant member. Even Fox news' initial reports after the 'press conference' (where no questions were allowed) couldnt hide it as they picked up on how Putin spoke first, acted as the leader, was allowed to give a diatribe of historic justifications for the invasion, and Trump was "steamrolled".

    The old order, Pax Americana, is gone. We have to confront the reality that our security threat will come not only from Russia but also from the US; two fronts on which are fascist states. The new order must be built in Brussels, and I would add that Canada should be included in this. Carney and Canadians recognise this threat, and have described themselves as 'the most European nation outside of Europe on Earth' recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,105 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Nobody that important or skilled; the Billy Mitchell room is named after an officer in the US Army who was an air power theorist. The B-25 Mitchell was named after him, too. I need to watch The King of Kong again



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    That was obviously an attempt by Putin to appeal to Trump's ego and he fell for it hook, line, and sinker like the gullible fool that he is. I'm sure the Kremlin had a good laugh about that.



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