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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭interlocked


    Putins bitch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,576 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    So,

    1) Trump says he'll end the war on day one. Nope

    2) Trump announced this meeting will happen in Russia 3 times in the press conference beforehand when it's in Alaska

    3) he tells folks in advance of the meeting how he's going to play it, giving away any strategy he has

    4) he tells folks on the day that if its not going well he'll go back to America.... He's in America

    5) he rolls out the red carpet and applauds Putin, making Trump look weak

    6) absolutely nothing is agreed

    7) despite saying that there will be severe consequences for Russia if no deal is reached, there are no consequences (TACO - Russian edition)

    8) he holds what is supposed to be a press conference, in which he takes no questions

    9) in that meeting, he waffled on with such bullsh1t as this...

    "We had an extremely productive meeting. Many points were agreed to. There are just a very few that are left. Some are not that significant. One is probably the most significant. We have a very good chance of getting there. We didn't get there, but we have a good shot of getting there."

    10) Putin leaves the country having steamrolled Trump with a big smile on his face, and with sh1t all over Trump's

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


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    And to add to the list of why he is a thin skinned loser, still can’t accept the 2020 election was not his.

    Complete child.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,576 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    And how does Russia know who won the 2020 election exactly?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭flanna01


    Didn't Trump go bankrupt on numerous occasions? Even crashing a Casino…? The art of the deal eh?

    Goes round practically begging for the Noble Peace Prize while supplying Israel with death and destruction of the Palestinians…?

    Stop the Russia vs Ukraine war in 24hrs - Me hole!

    The orange buffoon is a deluded idiot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,349 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Positive that Trump ended the press briefing that he will be discussing the outcome with NATO and then Zelenskyy as the next step in whatever process will be next. The suggested visit to Moscow seems to have met a cool reception, broad hint from Trump how he sees that being viewed in the U.S.

    Sergei Lavrov's choice of costume as foreign Minister was blunt and to the point on how he and Putin saw and felt the meeting should go "we will accept nothing less than all of Mother Russia's territory back". The touch from the U.S. with the fighter aircraft fly-by over Putin's head making him look up as he walked to the car with Trump (not as much as a twitch from Trump) was a good response.

    I think that the DCI will have the beast given a deep clean after Putin travelled in it.

    Edit: the only way to see how the meeting result is is for the media to do live-feed street meets with the U.S. public in Washington, LA and NYC without studio washing.

    Post edited by aloyisious on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭riddles


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    TRUMP as a Russian Serf, TRUMP is a Russian Serf.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭phater phagan


    No, he did not bankrupt a casino! He bankrupted 3 casinos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,670 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    So you think Zelenskyy should surrender to Russia and you don’t have any issue with an American president believing foreign presidents have to suck up to him ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The meltdown in February was carried out by Trump and Vance, Zelensky respected himself, his people and the severity of the situation they are in and represented himself appropriately in my view.

    We've seen plenty people try to massage Trumos ego and still end up with him using and belittling them, Zelensky is not on that list.

    In fact, he's on a much more respected list of people who have stood up to Trump and have been respected for doing so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Please. CFTrump set up a gotcha with Madge Taylors latest f*ckbuddy acting as stooge. If I recall there have been weapons shipments to Ukraine since then, so whatever Zelensky did then didn't break more, what was already broken, that is, the USG policy to Ukraine since CFTrump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Thepoet85


    Russia chiming about having fair elections. At least Vlad has a sense of humour!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    Can you seriously refer to Putin as a ‘politician’……😡😡 never won a proper election in his life, Riggs, kills throws opposition leaders out windows. He’s an abomination of a human being……shouldn’t be given one scintilla of respect on forums such as this and definitely not referred to as a politician😡😡😡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,706 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,706 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,685 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Peace on Putin's terms.

    Hate to break it to you guys but the average U.S. citizen doesn't give two hoots about Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    He’s thrown Ukraine to the wolves, that’s for sure

    “Donald Trump has put the onus on Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, to reach a ceasefire with Russia after the US leader held direct talks with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, in Alaska on Friday.

     Trump said Zelenskyy and Putin were going to set up a meeting to try to reach a ceasefire to end the war in Ukraine. “Now, it’s really up to President Zelenskyy to get it done,” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity after his meeting with Putin”


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/16/ukraine-war-briefing-up-to-zelenskyy-to-reach-ceasefire-with-russia-says-trump-after-putin-summit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,385 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's a snuck premise. It's a subtle attempt at sneaking in a bad faith argument without it being stated openly. A bit like how American Christian fundamentalists refer to abortion as killing babies.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    The MAGA morons would not be able to find Ukraine on a map.

    They only care about 'Murica, and jesus, and Donald Trump.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Hate to break it to a vatnik, but US citizens care a great deal about Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,685 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Americans care about crime and prices. Foreign affairs outside of Israel are of little interest. Just reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,361 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Normally these meetings are simply rubber stamps of agreements already agreed by the bureaucrats.

    I assumed that Trump had the deal already done and this was the PR win.

    How wrong was I. What a complete shambles. Trump said he'd know within 2 minutes if Putin was ready for a deal. 3 hours and no deal.

    Then he allows Putin to speak first, after which he sounded like a scolded child forced to speak.

    He's backed himself into a corner, or would have if he supporters held any values, as he said that if Putin didn't agree to a ceasefire there would be big consequences.

    Even Trump acknowledged it was a disaster. When Hannity asked him to rate the meeting out of 10, and remembering that Trump usually claims everything is the biggest, bestest, perfect etc, he avoided the question.

    This is supposed to be the most powerful man in the world. Playing 4d chess. People on here saying Zelensky is weak, or Micheal Martin was weak. But Trump has shown, yet again, that is is incredible weak and completely ineffective in getting any stop to Russia.

    IImagine the headlines has Biden, or God forbid Kamala have protracted themselves and ended up with nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,672 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The argument with Zelensky at the time was caused by Vance being an absolute twat at a public conference. It's also not the only time Trump has behaved poorly with the leader of a nation in a press conference. He consistently fawns over tyrants.

    I'm also finding it hilarious that you went onto referring to free elections in Ukraine. There's no indication that Putin has had free elections since the early 2000s.

    It's also always somewhat telling which posters tend to have a worship complex for the likes of Putin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Field east


    I thought that by now Trump had scraped clean the ‘bottom ofthe bucket’ when , in Helsinki he said that he thrusted Putin more than his own security. But his comment - AT A SUMMaIT- that this Russia, a Russia, Russia mantra was all a hoax and made discussions with Ru that bit more difficult has gone through the bottom of the bucket



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭ihateboards


    This is less about 2020 (he won 2024 and there was mail-in voting) and instead is some groundwork for trying to end mail-in voting in future elections, in order to win. Added to gerrymandering efforts, voter registrations changes and possible voting machine interference he is taking no chances. He will probably try something else if it looks like he may lose. This is apart from the increasingly unchecked hose of lies and distraction which will increase in volume.

    There is no scenario where he loses and accepts a loss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    It's the other way around, Putin left office after his second four year term in 2008. The world would be a better place if he stayed gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,003 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    ’snuck premise’ where did you get this from…???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭sliabh 1956


    Trump is so naive and posters here if he thought flattering Putin with smiles and praise was going to win him over. We know that Putin is a no nonsense guy who is where he is today because of his ruthlessness. Poor Donny is the exact opposite a vain spineless creature who craves attention and vain platitudes . If ever there were two polar opposites well we have them here. I don't think Vance would have dared to say the things he said to Zelensky was he even in Alaska. The teams of negotiators that each side brought should the difference in strength Putin's Premier League Donnies minor League. Im saddened for Ukraine because Trump is completely indifferent to their plight unless there is some financial reward in it for him. Time for Europe to step and put real pressure on Putin because Donny is so beholden to Putin he isn't willing or able to fight Ukraines just cause.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    When it comes to foreign leaders sucking up to Trump, the guy is a textbook narcissist. You either manipulate him with that in mind, or you get meltdowns like Zelensky encountered in February. It is no mystery that objectively better politicians know how to manipulate Trump, whereas Zelensky fails disastrously.

    The thing is Ukraine is utterly dependent on the US, and Ukrainian soldiers are utterly dependent on US equipment, funding, intelligence, leadership and training. I know it seems impossible to endure, but it was Zelensky's job to endure Trump and win him over for the sake of those soldiers - not for approval from people on the internet. But Zelensky couldn't do it because he is objectively a bad politician.



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