Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Yes but popularity is democracy or vice versa to a degree

was in the Sunday World https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-jailed-for-nine-years-after-following-woman-into-bathroom-and-raping-her/a2141000006.html

see more crime stories there.

Liz there's not much in the way of transparency in that article, they don't even provide sources as to where they're getting their data from by which they are able to present those statistics relating to migrant crime. Essentially, it's impossible to validate anything in that article, from that article alone. I could trudge the UK MOJ site to see how they're coming up with the data, but if I'm being honest - I'm not all that interested in crimes committed by immigrants specifically, and ignoring the 9 out of 10 crimes which are not committed by immigrants. It's a politically motivated effort to portray migrants as the threat to UK society, ignore the other 9 out of 10 criminals.

We do have similar transparency and statistics here though already, we've had them for years, but the only thing is that the Irish Prison Service does not collect data on prisoners place of birth. They do collect data on prisoners nationality, and the types of crimes committed, and if you do your homework you can sort of join the dots, but I wouldn't recommend that as much like the Times article which relies on incomplete data which the MOJ says is experimental (the Times forgot to mention that), it could lead you to drawing inaccurate conclusions -

Monthly Information Note - Irish Prison Service

I don't imagine an FOI request would get you the info you're looking for either, the IPS can't give you information it doesn't have, but they can certainly provide you with information. Found it grim reading myself tbh, a statement like this can't simply be explained away by increasing immigration, there's something else going on in Irish society -

• A thorough investigation into why we have seen tenfold increases in the number of rapes and sexual assaults across every county in Ireland.

https://cynthianimhurchu.ie/16-increase-in-number-of-sex-offenders-in-our-prisons-as-number-of-sex-assaults-skyrocket/

Alwsys with the dig,Its not because its "easier to digest" for us thicks,it's because they are usually accurate statements that reflect genuine concerns that people have.

I don't know if you will ever understand that,I see we still have posters stating the housing crisis has nothing to do with immigration. I give up.

Agreed. This thread was funny when the far right got a paltry vote at the elections. Many posters thought it was going to be a far right takeover. So it's not representative of the general publics opinions obviously. We know there is a concerted effort by the far right to target this forum anyway as has been seen in leaked far right messages posted recently. I suppose we see what people think when they vote. Online polls and threads can be manipulated by a concerted effort.

200 incidents n not a fraction of the media outrage compared to assaults on indians. The future is bright with these fellas if this is them before they get the nod to stay.

Garda reports show no uptick in crimes on indians so where did this made up issue come from? Is it another attempt to try n revive poor Helens hate speech or what's the craic. Or to try divert headlines with Harris from that poor Harvey scoliosis kid.

At this stage I'm expecting the dalai lama to speak out about Indian attacks, we had the hse n Michael d yesterday! Shove yer selective outrage where the sun don't shine folks!

I'm not surprised by this, there were a few isolated incidents that the media got behind and ran a blanket campaign to only severed to cause mass hysteria throughout the Indian community.

I have a family member that works for a multinational in Dublin and they told me that the CEO sent around an email this week rightly condemning the attacks, they have worked there for over 20 years, and have never seen an email like that before, so it's just adding to this narrative that the Indian community are public enemy number one, and I don't believe that is accurate at all.

As I've said before, teenage feral teens don't need an excuse to attack people and nobody is immune to this, but using the situation to gain some sort of leverage to setup a government funded 'Special India Community Taskforce' and to try to push through hate speech laws is not only wrong, it's pretty arrogant also in my opinion.

Indeed violence and racist attacks should not prevent government from putting a hard stop on non-EU migration.

Show me one post where these attacks were used to stop discussion on immigration.

I bet you can’t, but I’ll show you a post where an excuse was made that they were attacked because of scam calls.

That much is clear, that there is no appetite. But there is a need.