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Mart Price Tracker

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  • #9602
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,280 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    @Bass Reeves or anyone else in the Midwest.

    Are you seeing much difference in the price paid for quality suckler LM weanlings/stores in Ennis vs Tipperary vs six mile vs newport etc?


    I don’t watch enough to have a qualified opinion. Ennis seems higher from a glance, but suspect the average quality is that bit higher there.



  • #9603
    Dunedin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,775 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123717441#Comment_123717441

    whilst I would agree with the need not to divide etc., there has been plenty of suckler bashing over the years and the price increase is very welcome at their door.

    There was even one prominent poster on here at the early stages of the high prices who stated that sucklers were most at risk so it’s a little keyboard payback time me thinks.

    Personally, I love to see everyone get on, be it farming or in their day job - no time for begrudgers.



  • #9604
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Part of the reason cattle are scarce is because suckler cow numbers have dropped. Why did people cut back cow numbers? There was no money in it. Now there is money in it for the few that stuck with it. It's a simple case of supply and demand. There is no us and them in beef really.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #9605
    mr.stonewall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123717477#Comment_123717477

    DM sent



  • #9606
    limo_100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭limo_100


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123717477#Comment_123717477

    seems to be a huge difference between marts everywhere in fairness, Carrigallen and Roscommon seem to be the best in the midlands but at the same time they seem to get the better quality weanlings, where as Granard is good but suits a more storey type weanling for squeezing. Have seem some high quality weanlings in Granard sell for 100's less than it would have got in Carrigallen



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  • #9607
    893bet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,280 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123717796#Comment_123717796

    I didn’t get a DM!



  • #9608
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,165 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123717786#Comment_123717786

    The Drop in suckkers is only part of it. The export trade is a big factor. There is a savage amount of bucket fed weanlings and stones exported as well as calves. Dairy cows have dropped back as well you 30-50k.

    If the export was not there ir tge extra sucklers were there the processors woukd quite happily to be paying us 6/kg or less.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123717728#Comment_123717728

    Think a lot of what some are describing as bashing was a cohort of us who were dead set against a subsidising of sucklers to keep farmers doing it. We pointed out that tge only winners in that case was the processors. We also pointed out that as sucklers nu.bers dropped there progeny would be more valuable. Subsidising a system is no replacement for profitability.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #9609
    Sheep breeder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    In Tullamore on Sunday met a man from west who buys a lot of good continental store cattle for farmers up and down the country, he was saying last year buying a 100 stores for men would take around 140k and this year will take 250k roughly. Some differences in money to out lay to just fill a shed before doing anything and blue tongue on the horizon.



  • #9610
    WoozieWu
    Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    the only reason i started posting on here was to counter the constant suckler bashing

    who is laughing now



  • #9611
    leoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭leoch


    Balla is probably a better mart than carrigallen or roscommon.....I watched the bulls in it last night and anything good bought by export men making 2800 to 3000

    Almost everything was making 6 to 7 euros per kg



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  • #9612
    Sheep breeder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123718375#Comment_123718375

    Well the man that has the sucklers in one or two here eyes have been fools, think everyone is entitled to farm to suit their land, work job, life style and family situation, in my circumstances the sucklers never done me no harm and built slatted sheds and paid a good piece of the house mortgage. From my point view over my life time good cattle always sold well even in a bad trade, from my time working in meat factories they always could sell good quality carcasses and bad ones their was only certain markets for them. For us one of the best things was the breeding side and seen calves born, selling a bull that bred well for that man or how many weanlings went to the boat each year.



  • #9613
    Dozer1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123717477#Comment_123717477

    If you have top ones gortalea is hard beaten, it's on a Wednesday evening so you'll get a good idea on price there. Also castleisland has a weanling sale on this Monday, I find it as good as anywhere. Both places will sort transport for you



  • #9614
    limo_100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭limo_100


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123718450#Comment_123718450

    sure they where making almost 4k in carrigallen on sat. up to 7.50 a kg



  • #9615
    GNWoodd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123718375#Comment_123718375

    If it wasn’t suckler bashing it was posters saying that factories could do what they like as regards specs, price etc .
    Funny how they can’t do what they like now !!



  • #9616
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    It's great to see Suckler lads having a great year and may ye have many great years but beef finishers are still wondering how to stock a place.



  • #9617
    HHH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭HHH


    Some trade in Roscrea this evening. Serious stock on show and prices to match.



  • #9618
    BeGrand2025
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 ✭BeGrand2025


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123711995#Comment_123711995

    IMG_0036.jpeg

    Some animal.



  • #9619
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭kk.man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720646#Comment_123720646

    Mince all of him at supervalus offer this week. Mince price of 10.99 at say 600kg of meat = 6,600 e and that's not even Angus mince price. Im not taken into account offal or hide. Plus he's only one of many animals killed in a day. Im being generous with his kill out but he could have 50 kg of bones.

    Factories are spinning a lot of s#</÷e.



  • #9620
    bogman_bass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720646#Comment_123720646

    I wonder what age he was.



  • #9621
    amacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,402 ✭✭✭amacca


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720778#Comment_123720778

    That lad remembers the first simpsons episode!



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  • #9622
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Going on mart prices 8.50 flat is on offer this week. Im sure certain 'friends' are getting it in the factories too. Don't even enter negotiations less than 8e.



  • #9623
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭kk.man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720690#Comment_123720690

    Say they devide the the 1600 by 2 that's 800e for supermarket and processor. Not a bad job by any means.



  • #9624
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,165 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720822#Comment_123720822

    Heard a story recently of a farmer that has AA/HE fit this time of year. Two and a weeks ago he was looking for a flat price Agent was offering him 7.6 on the grid +15c for HE & 20c for AA bonuus. He refused and Agent left. He was advised to go to Gortalea but out of courtesy he let the agent know they would be going this week.

    Agent rang looking for them offering 8 flat, farmer said he had them booked and he was reluctant to not govevthe mart a chane, He got 8.15 in the end it seems

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #9625
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭kk.man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720863#Comment_123720863

    That's what im talking about. People on here think I go off the grid but I've serious facts to back my arguments. There's serious bull@%/÷t by factories. Ignore them.

    Btw i mentioned supervalu (which is a ccpc questionable offer), the UK supermarkets are absolute king to the barons where the return is absolute.



  • #9626
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,165 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720889#Comment_123720889

    TBH I have a mixed load 15ish Friesians and coloured cattle with flesh ( not very heavy cattle) young lad looked for 7.5 for Friesians and 8 for coloured cattle ( HE, AA, BB,LM) etc

    Agent came back with 7.6 on the grid we are carrying 8 will go to mart Friday, 6 more to Ennis next week and there will be another bit of a load Friday week.

    There is 4-5 weeks left in this IMO

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #9627
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭kk.man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720904#Comment_123720904

    Dam right mart all day. I've a load of aa and he im taking no bull. I'll put them in the mart and if they don't make 8.50 ish they r coming home. Be interesting conversations next week.



  • #9628
    nhg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭nhg


    IMG_4307.jpeg

    We were happy with this in KK last week.

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  • #9629
    morphy87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭morphy87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720908#Comment_123720908

    When are you thinking of selling? Did they bid you a price yet?



  • #9630
    morphy87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭morphy87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123721052#Comment_123721052

    That’s some price, couldn’t but be happy with that, have you more to go?



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  • #9631
    Siamsa Sessions
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Not always the case but as a rough rule-of-thumb, I always thought mart price (liveweight) was about twice factory price (deadweight), based on 50% kill-out.

    If fellas are getting €4.50 at the mart, then factory price is close to €9. But factories are paying no where near this.

    @kk.man has been saying it for ages and @Bass Reeves is currently doing it, so there must be something to bringing finished cattle to the mart.



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