Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

The Journal are doubling down with their 'anti-Indian' agenda. They are making a mountain out of a molehill here and there is no reason to cancel the Indian Celebration Day aside for creating more headlines for themselves.

Let's not get carried away, there is zero chance of that happening.

Some of us don’t spend all day on the internet, you know.

It’s called having a life. Get one

Unless there was some credible threat this seems like utter hysteria.

All this publicity the Irish media are giving it is probably painting a bulleye on the indian community for scrotes.

Yes of course. Every attack should be reported on and every effort made to bring the perpetrators to justice.

From my casual observing of the news since the tallaght incident though theres been excessive reporting.

Marches, headlines, bulletins on news shows. Talking heads. Politicians, harris, martin etc wading in. Complete overkill and now cancelling a cultural event?

Seems like a bit of mass hysteria to me.

There have been a couple of attacks not thousands.

Its ridiculous hysteria from our media politicians etc.

Notice that Simon Harris is very invested in this issue right around the time his shameful handling of the scoliosis scandal has been brought up, almost like its a convenient distraction from that scandal

Nobody has a problem reporting a couple of racist attacks, it should be covered.

It's the inordinate attention it's been given and making it look like there are daily lynchings of Indians going on.

I'll be interested to see if there will be much coverage of the racist attack against and Irish lad in Adamstown at the weekend and will there be some statements made by government ministers etc assuring Irish people that we won't tolerate racist attacks towards them.

If you could follow those feral kids around, it seems likely that guys like that attack more just than Indians. As they were living quietly until they were radicalised by the far-right and then started attacking Indians.

from my experience of Dublin scumbags, looking a bit different can be enough to attract unwanted attention. Looking “foreign”, speaking another language, dressing like a “goth”, effeminate etc

It could be that some Dublin scumbags have started targeting Indians specially. I remember certain groups of scumbags developed a hatred for Brazilian delivery guys a while back from some reason. It would be good to actually have some data on what’s happening.

re: Tallaght specifically, was there a series of tit for tat incident? I.e. local scumbags smashing up an Indian restaurant and then some of the Indians catching on of the guys on a bus and beating him? Someone probably has more details.

Looks like Tommy Robinson has been doing a round of interviews lately.

The thing about him is that I don't think he's entirely wrong with his points about mass immigration where it has divided towns and allowed attitudes incompatible with western liberal democracy to become established.

But he's also not averse to parroting the same ill-defined spiel about Marxists and Communists and espouses admiration for figures like Donald Trump. He loses a good deal of credibility on that.

Figures like Robinson may be correct about unfettered immigration, but I'm suspicious of their propensities to fold in a whole lot of lies with that once they have people going along with them. "The media's been lying to you, but you can believe me…." Can I? I'm not sure.

Does this relate to Ireland and immigration? It does in the sense that his words have resonance here and that they'll be co-opted. He wants mass deportations. I wouldn't disagree with the idea of deporting foreign nationals who being criminal and/or adding nothing to the local society. However, deportation ends with those who are born in the country and hold only citizenship of that country, and many of those of those immigrant populations in the UK are 2 or 3 generations deep having been there for decades…

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I suppose that if anti-immigrant feeling continues to rise both in Ireland and Britain - or not even anti-immigrant, maybe more succinctly feeling against groups of people incompatible with our respective cultures - we may come to the same idea that the US has as to what to do with actual citizens who fall under this banner of 'second-generation immigrant' and send them off to some 3rd world holding camp. To find this troubling would be painted as wet liberal hand wringing, although the reason I would find this troubling is more selfishly that a government who can do that to citizens of one kind is only one whim away from doing it to anyone they find inconvenient, including me and anyone else.

Depending on how Ireland, the UK and the rest of Europe goes on this, there are other ways of dealing with 'second-generation immigrants', although they may involve looking the other way and not asking too many questions about the odd smell coming out the the chimney stacks over the hill.

(note: not condoning the above at all. Merely citing historical precedent.)

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they do have a different perspective alright. they are milking the victim card .

This will serve their interests in the future . watch that space,.

Money and resources will flow now.

yeah 100% . no tragedy or alleged tragedy ever stopped a special interest group. necks like a jockeys bollocs.

Nice to see some of our newly arrived asylum seekers making great efforts to integrate into the local community while they await a decision on their claims.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/two-teens-stabbed-as-they-slept-in-car-in-planned-attack-on-dublin-street/a1830617657.html

Weakness is strength in this country. Once you portray yourself as a victim, you are exempt from any scrutiny or criticism. In the eyes of many people, every immigrant is weak, needs their sympathy and deserves special treatment.