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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭Neowise


    If "it has been fairly well explained why Ad revenue is no longer a viable option", then why "That is the main reason why there are more ads placed on the site."?

    This don't make sense.

    "Ads are no longer viable, so lets make the site unusable with ads." Should not be a business plan. (maybe explain better)

    Encourage new users to the site. new reader might read something they want to engage with. this creates a new sign up.

    More sign up, = more active users.

    more active users should convert into more subs, without killing them before they even sign up with ads.

    Either ads work or they don't. The message is very mixed.

    If any of that reads as negative, it is not meant to be, i want the site to survive, i'm just concerned the methods being employed might do the opposite of what might be intended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Thank you! I also noticed some bugs since they introduced some full pages ads.

    Im worried about privacy. Gagging for money. I don't feel safe. I'll give money, but not until I feel secure as opposed to being berated.

    Attack the post, not the poster. Seems to have gone out the window in this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭rino87


    Im late to this discussion.....

    Been here years, love the place, would hate to see it go.

    May have been answered already, but what happens my sub if the place goes wallop?

    Also agree that adding the ads now at this point is madness...its even driving me, a long time almost daily user away...doesn't inspire confidence that if I do sign up for a sub that the place will survive



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,294 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    In fairness, myself and others have raised the fact that the ads in their current form will drive users from the platform. They take up an entire page and pop up after a handful of clicks and they do actively impact the experience. Eg opening a thread jumps to the latest post if an ad popups

    Do you think users are likely to disable their ad blockers if that's how it's handled? Running ads that people will happily choose to block simply isn't gonna work. I can't think of any sites that are running ads in that way any more. The rollout of the ads doesn't encourage subscribers and comes across like the vanilla move, it doesn't inspire confidence. The response to the feedback feels more like ignoring the feedback.

    Honestly your arguments aren't coming across like good faith arguments at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Calling me a beggar? I know it was aimed at me.

    I would happily pay a subscription if I thought it was worth it.

    You also said "offering nothing ".

    Support and advice is NOTHING?

    Nah. Not standing for that. Allegedly a community.

    One simple post can cheer up a posters day. Go listen to love shack and have a toastie.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    As I understand it, it's more like "Ads as implemented previously are no longer viable, due to a drop in how much revenue they generate (which is not unique to boards)".

    I do agree that the timing of launching a subscriber system that's ad-free at the same time as overhauling the site's ad system to make the ads more intrusive doesn't look great, but if the "we have 90 days to turn things around" statement is accurate - and I don't see any reason to disbelieve it - I expect there's an element of needs-must.

    I've seen this on other sites where e.g. comment systems were replaced with the IMO truly awful OpenWeb system (think Disqus but more ad-riddled, buggy and generally awful to use). Those sites' owners admitted that the change was driven by a need to increase advertising return, and one easy option is to make tweaks to serve up more ads.

    I'd _love_ to see more users on the site. Not sure how that can be easily achieved, mind you. Advertising campaigns require a certain amount of investment to pay off ( you need to hit enough density to achieve the repetition effect for them to work, is how I've seen it described). A german Mastodon instance recently ran an advertising billboard for their service for a week, but despite the ad generating traffic in the sense of people sharing photos, it only led to a single new user. So things like ad campaign planning, surveys, audience studies would all cost money that the site likely doesn't have available at the moment...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,380 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    You are missing the point there. A very small percentage of people will subscribe, the entire media world is having this problem in getting people to pay for content. A discussion forum needs an engaged user base to be any value to anyone. This has been dropping away in recent years and especially since the migration. These new ads are going to drive more people away, and there will be less point in anyone else subscribing to a site with even fewer users than it has now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    I dunno. Bring back the quake thread. Old school.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,070 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I enjoy Boards & I have been here for a long time. I think there is a market for fora especially for people who want real discussion.

    I think that it's possible to market Boards as somewhere to get real help & where your voice will be heard.

    Has anyone heard or seen Boards promoting themselves?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,303 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    It's quite disappointing to see the plan is more ads and get subscribers from existing users. If this continues your subscriber count may go up but overall userbase is going to drop off.

    What about a plan to gain more users? Or as was highlighted previously, why not look at merch? Or sponsorship deals?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    That would boards gdpr team.

    What business is it of yours?

    Seriously. Can I ask you loads of personal questions? I've loads!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭mossie


    Realistically the site is probably unlikely to get a lot of new users ads or no ads. Most people now probably use X or Reddit for their fix so Boards need to monetise the current user base. Just wondering how many active users are there, as in users who post rather than just browse, nor the total of registered users? The number of active users has certainly fallen since the Vanilla debacle and is very apparent on some forums and counting all registered users as possible subscribers is a bit optimistic if they no longer actively take part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    You think asking someone if they buy stuff online is a personal question?

    I'm just wondering as you seem very untrustworthy of Stripe, an extremely secure payment processing website yet probably buy stuff from Temu



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    I probably what? Have we met before?

    Sounds like it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    If you've ever bough anything online you've given your personal details to a payment processing website and have you been scammed or had any negative issues with it?

    Note: there is no GDPR issues with these questions, just trying to discover the major reluctance in using a secure payment processing site to donate to a site you love and say you really want to donate to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    You said probably "i buy stuff from temu". Did you not? Are we besties now? You know me so well.

    As for gdpr, who's the data controller? You see to know a lot.

    Foi is easy. Im getting suspicious.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,947 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I don't get what this thread has turned into. If you want to donate, donate. If not, don't. I don't see the point of boasting about not doing it is.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    I said "probably buy stuff from Temu" as in you more than likely have used your card online which has gone through a payment processing site.

    What has me asking you a question about using your card online got to do with GDPR or freedom of information?

    What are you getting suspicious about?



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 43,711 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Keep it up lads. Everyone is so interested in your childish squabble.

    Save boards.ie by subscribing:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Temu? I wouldn't give it steam off my pee if it was on fire.

    You said "probably". Do you know me? Simple question.

    And yes gdpr. Do you know anything about it?

    Our ip and emails are available to boards. And bank details are available as well. Do boards.ie not have a bank account?

    Don't try and teach your grandmother how to suck lemons.

    Again, I'll ask. What is your skin in the game?



  • Boards.ie Employee, Boards Employee 2, Boards Employee 3, API Token user Posts: 206 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Odhran
    Boards.ie Employee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    I honestly have no clue what 90% of this even means.

    Don't know if I know you or not, no one I know is called gameoverdude.

    We'll leave it there, you want to donate and subscribe but give continuous reasons why you won't or can't, makes sense.

    You do you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,092 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,285 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,648 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    The reality is it's not 2005 anymore.

    I'd say most of us arrived here originally looking for an answer to something.

    We got that answer and ended up staying and getting other answers and engaging in all sorts of ways.

    That doesn't happen anymore.

    If someone wants an answer for something they use Google which will provide them with a AI generated overview, or they will go straight to YouTube to see a video of how to do something.

    Message boards and discussion forms are the old Internet, you can't in 2025 drive under engagement to the old Internet.

    This was always going to happen, all the owners are doing is trying to keep it alive for as long as possible.



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  • Boards.ie Employee, Boards Employee 2, Boards Employee 3, API Token user Posts: 206 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Odhran
    Boards.ie Employee


    Could you share any bugs please? We will review. Also there should not be any full page ads - would you mind sharing a screenshot next time you see one?



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