Tesla Talk 2

a glc is half the price of a rav 4 again you have a strange grasp of maths maidhc.

I didn't say maidhc or certainly not to you, as I said a glc is half the price again over a new Rav 4 so I'm sure a wealthy farmer with multiple business successes under your belt like yourself sees it as no big jump but for the general car buying population they are completely different segments.

I had a glc a few cars ago pretty uninspiring so should be an easy adaptation from the Rav albeit it has a much nicer interior.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123695844#Comment_123695844

You are not the only one that shares that opinion. Tesla’s branding has taken a nosedive since Elon became vocal about his views and funded Trumps re-election.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/teslas-brand-loyalty-collapsed-after-musk-backed-trump-data-shows-2025-08-04/

Unfortunately its impossible to separate the car from the wan-car.

Was aware, but apparently they have completely stopped taking orders on the s and x in lhd as well.

wow, wasn’t expecting such an argument to the post yesterday.

The reality is that the argument here all year was to “wait for the juniper sales”. Which was actually a very fair argument - I don’t like the generic Chinese new looks, but it’s a great car, an allround improvement, and I expected it to sell well.

Y sales so far in 2025 are down 32%, and just 375 junipers were sold in the crucial (for Tesla) 2 months June-July, actually down 4% versus sales of the old Y in June/July last year.

Meanwhile the 3 is the best car for sale in Ireland full stop, but only sold 1000 cars year to date, albeit it’s the top selling EV in its hatchback/saloon class.

I would assume that’s simply because the CEO’s of other car companies aren’t as newsworthy - people are simply repeating what they see in the news. It doesn’t mean they’re right or wrong, it just means they read the news and have an opinion on it - which is usually a good thing all round.

I think those of us that appreciate cars in general expected far more from Tesla by this point, irrespective of its ceo.

This is a trillion dollar business now, yet the Y in 2021 is the last meaningful revenue-generating product that it’s produced in those 4+ years.
lots of projects and lots of promise - but 98% of company revenue comes from selling cars and charging them.

Except nowadays people mostly have the opinion they are influenced to have very little of it is borne of independent thought unfortunately.

I think most of Europe is the same. Roads are narrow and congested. I think it’s the ultimate in hubris to think we can develop a machine that’s as good (or better) than a human at taking in its surroundings… the sights sounds and even smells being replaced by a few sensors. Maybe sometime, but I wager not in the very short timeframe Tesla investors expect.

Tesla should never have gone downmarket as fast as they did. There was a business in making high(ish) end cars with a closed charging system and it would have been a real threat the to the German premium marques, but that early lead was thrown away. I know a few people in Ireland who bought new a new model s to replace their 520d and it was a compelling option.

Hang on you think that instead of building two of the best selling cars in the world they should have stuck with low volume circa 100k cars to take on the Germans (who are fooked themselves)

That's utter hogwash maidhc.

how much was manufacturing profit and how much was carbon credits and state aid though?