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Meanwhile on the Roads...

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  • #1682
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i've only seen brief summaries of the report in the press, the 'gardai openly disdainful of doing their jobs, don't care that their management know' - but did the report actually try to get into the why of that? or were such questions rebuffed?



  • #1683
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,466 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688853#Comment_123688853

    "He has the right to earn a living" said the judge.

    Regardless of the danger this creates for the rest of us, apparently. And driving would be the only way for him to exercise that right, apparently.



  • #1684
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,466 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688889#Comment_123688889

    "but did the report actually try to get into the why  of that?"

    It's like the old 'why did the dog lick his bollocks' question.

    Because he can.



  • #1685
    magicbastarder
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    well, if it's a 'why bother, because the judges will toss out any cases we bring' it's a more systematic issue than a basic lack of discipline in the gardai.



  • #1686
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688991#Comment_123688991

    No, I think the 'why' is the vital question to be asked and answered. I wouldn't be as dismissive to suggest that Gardai are uninterested in their job just because they're allowed to be. I don't think a "the beatings will continue until morale improves" approach will get us anywhere. It might be enjoyable for some to see the Gardai get a kicking in the media for a few weeks, but nothing will change on the road.



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  • #1687
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,988 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688987#Comment_123688987

    Dr. Shipman has the right to earn a living



  • #1688
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Tánaiste says any gardaí showing 'brazen' disregard for roads policing 'letting colleagues down'

    If you ever hear a politician patronising/ moralising someone else, you can be sure it's that useless gob***te Harris. The man has achieved literally nothing in life but worm his way up the ladder of power. He's left no legacy in any of his portfolios. But he's top of the class when it comes to getting in front of the media first to give the public the soundbites he thinks they'll want to hear.

    It's spoofers like him that I refer to when I say there's no appetite for meaningful reform at the top.



  • #1689
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,684 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689503#Comment_123689503

    When fiction is more real than the truth:

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  • #1690
    Murph_D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,899 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    deleted

    Post edited by Murph_D on


  • #1691
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,597 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123688889#Comment_123688889

    It is a wider issue across the force. The latest in a long list of reports

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  • #1692
    Murph_D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,899 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    I saw a a Garda directing traffic from inside his car recently. Just plonked in intersection gesticulating out the window. Unbelievable stuff.



  • #1693
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2025/08/04/e-scooter-driver-dies-following-late-night-collision/

    RIP.

    Not sure if that's the first time I've seen the word 'driver' used in that context?



  • #1694
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,597 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123695723#Comment_123695723

    Media scribe 'driver' for years, as do judges and garda



  • #1695
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,597 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    council workers have been abused and their lives put at risk by aggressive drivers ploughing past handheld stop signs. Senior gardaí in the region have reported a serious decline in driver behaviour..

    and a councillor says “In my East Cork region, there isn’t a day goes by without residents in estates pleading for traffic calming measures to cut down on speeding.”

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41681441.html



  • #1696
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I'd well believe it, doing marshalling at a TT (with a Garda presence), only a few weeks ago and I actually had to jump out of the way. Driver ran through a junction, and missed two riders by a few seconds.



  • #1697
    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    There is nothing like sticking out a few cones to encourage the lunatics.

    I once had a driver jump out of his car to roar at me that we could have killed his children. Because we eh had the road narrowed to one lane??

    Another fella stopped in the middle of the M8!! To roar abuse as we had held him up by a few seconds to try to fix the concrete median barrier which a truck had managed to drive straight into.

    Another man (never women) drove straight through the road closed signs and attending worker onto the closed road. Then managed to damage his car on the trench we had dug. Again I had to listen to his rant as I tried not to laugh in his face.

    I could go on, and on, and on.....

    Drunken fella got stuck in the side of a digger on a closed road.

    Idiot drove straight into a flashing sign board (the big yellow ones with massive warning message on it).

    Dope drove over the stop/go man's foot.

    5 cars followed a tipper truck into the roadworks and again 1 fella shouted at our engineer for 5 minutes as he blocked the whole site.

    The more I type, the more I remember 🤣



  • #1698
    magicbastarder
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    one of the funnier mishaps i heard about was a colleague of my brother's who arrived in several hours late to work years ago. it was a frosty morning and on his drive into work on a country road, he slid off at a bend, through a hedge and ended up in a field.

    another colleague lent him a car, and was happy to do so - it had belonged to the second lad's recently deceased mother in law, and he was happy that the car was out from under his feet.

    a week later, the first guy was driving into work in that car, and left the road, straight through the hole he'd punched in the hedge a week earlier, and ended up in the field for a second time.



  • #1699
    MojoMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,434 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Does that qualify as a 'mishap' if it happens twice? 🤔



  • #1700
    mattser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭mattser


    For a thread under the banner of cycling, there is mostly a concentration on driving here. Maybe it should be moved to motoring.



  • #1701
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,791 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123697680#Comment_123697680

    Well to be fair, its almost impossible to cycle on the roads without experiencing the good and bad of driving. The point of the thread was to "highlight issues on the roads, which we all use and share, which impact us as road users but which don't relate solely/ directly to cycling". It's to try and put some perspective on the car-centric view of road use where anyone not driving a vehicle is just 'in the way'.

    I'm sure some posts veer towards off topic on occasion, no different than any other thread on this site, but moving it to the motoring section would entirely defeat the purpose. Its a thread for non-motorist users of the road to comment on general road usage experiences. I don't see why its not suitable for this forum?

    I think a thread which reaffirms cyclists right to use the roads and at the same time provides an outlet for highlighting the challenges that can come with doing so is a useful one. Your comment (which I've no doubt is in good faith and a genuine observation) kind of proves the point of this thread - the idea that cycling is not impacted by driving behaviour.



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  • #1702
    magicbastarder
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123697680#Comment_123697680

    from the OP:

    Don't want to clog up the 'Journalism' thread so thought I'd start a new one to highlight issues on the roads, which we all use and share, which impact us as road users but which don't relate solely/ directly to cycling.

    makes sense to me, there are plenty of issues relating to roads and transport of interest to cyclists, which aren't specifically about cycling.

    the recent report on the low enforcement of road traffic law is not a cycling story, but a topic close to the hearts of many cyclists.



  • #1703
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,849 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Had a taxi driver throw abuse at myself and the wife yesterday because we were cycling 2-abrest (for about 15 seconds before turning off the road) I'm 90% sure the taxi driver is in the wrong here and we are in fact allowed to cycle 2-abrest but can't find anything online to back up my belief here



  • #1704
    magicbastarder
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    you are allowed cycle two abreast; the law is clear on that.



  • #1705
    Dr_Colossus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123698025#Comment_123698025

    Report to the taxi regulator if you have the reg or taxi plate number, much easier process than trying to lodge a compliant with the gardaí. Even if you don't want it to proceed to course the regulator will get a statement from the taxi driver to explain his actions so that alone might educate him on his stupidity and disdain for cyclists.



  • #1706
    Mefistofelino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123698025#Comment_123698025

    S.I. No. 332/2012 - Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2012

    (s) by substituting for article 47 (as amended by Regulation 3 of the Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2011 ( S.I. No. 673 of 2011 )) the following:

    “Pedal cyclists

    47. (1) A pedal cyclist shall not drive a pedal cycle on a roadway in such a manner as to result in more than 2 pedal cyclists driving abreast, save when overtaking other pedal cyclists, and then only if to do so will not endanger, inconvenience or obstruct other traffic or pedestrians.

    (2) Pedal cyclists on a roadway shall cycle in single file when overtaking other traffic



  • #1707
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,849 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123698060#Comment_123698060

    Didn't even think of taking the reg. I'm sure he'll piss somebody else off in the near future who will report him to whomever is appropriate. I've made complaints about taxis before (unrelated to cycling) and on almost every occasion the regulator makes my phone number known to the taxi driver and they call me about it, I don't want that hassle honestly.



  • #1708
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,849 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123698044#Comment_123698044

    Yes, found it now after making my original post, thank you though

    Is it legal to cycle two abreast in Ireland?

    Cyclists can cycle two abreast but under Article 47 of the Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) 1997 Regulations (as substituted by the 2012 Regulations), you must not cycle more than two abreast, except when overtaking and it does not endanger or obstruct other traffic.

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel-and-recreation/cycling/cycling-offences/



  • #1709
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,407 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The cycling two, three or twenty abreast is somewhat irrelevant - the driver should not have been hurling abuse towards you.

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  • #1710
    hans aus dtschl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,832 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I've been shouted at for cycling two abreast…when out on a solo spin...by one of my neighbours (who presumably didn't realise it was me).

    Very many people are idiots. We set them loose with what is basically heavy machinery.



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  • #1711
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,466 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123698108#Comment_123698108

    That's a clear data breach by the regulator. Report them to the DPC, the other regulator!



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