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Gript-A source of misinformation. **Read OP before posting**

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,421 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    The only place for gript is the gutter. Independant analysis of thejournal.ie seems to be in their favour.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/thejournal-ie/#:~:text=TheJournal.ie%20is%20owned%20by%20Journal%20Media%20Ltd.%20Journal,of%20Journal%20Media%20who%20also%20founded%20Distilled%20Media.

    "Overall, we rate TheJournal.ie Left-Center Biased based on social democratic editorial positions. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record. (11/29/2016) Updated (M. Huitsing 06/19/2025)"

    It's hilarious you consider them Mainstream Media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    So you're in favour of gagging the opinions of people you disagree with?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,421 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    When you say disagreeing with, you are over simplifying the matter. It's been a while since I looked on their site. Had a glance at it a few minutes ago to find this article:

    https://gript.ie/the-dangerous-hysteria-around-tuam/

    "

    Thus far, the total lack of evidence of inappropriate burials there means that the government is unwilling to take such a step, but should Roscrea become a cause célèbre, another excavation is likely.

    Over many decades, an extraordinarily vicious caricature of Ireland’s religious sisters has been created, which is now fueling this mad frenzy.

    Generations of women who lived lives of prayer and service have been maliciously slandered.

    "

    It's not a disagreement that's occurring here. They are blatantly lying and seeking to misdirect their readers to stir'em up into a victimised mob.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭maik3n


    Mea culpa, i screwed up. I only searched for the victims name.

    We are catching all the L's at the moment.
    Grift have relented and posted the press council decision over the SPHE hoax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,375 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Dear Lord, that's the most deranged comments section I've seen in a while



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    On the other side of the coin, the journal published a fact check article about the topic we're not allowed to discuss currently which has been proven to be incredibly factually inaccurate.

    Ultimately you make the choice to be offended by this type of stuff.

    Saying something belongs in the gutter is a preposterous idea.

    People are free to believe what Gript says, they're also free to appropriate at face value whatever "fact checking" the journal publishes before the full facts of a situation become available.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,421 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Yes people are free to believe whatever they wish to read, where ever they may read it. That doesn't put them on a pedestal. That doesn't close them to criticism or derision. Which Gript has rightly earned.

    My comments about those who read Gript wasn't targeted at them. But the blatant irresponsibility and lack of consideration Gript provides them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,128 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I won't bother, but I can imagine that it makes the YouTube comments section look like a gathering of Mensa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,375 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    thejournal have been doing this "fact checking" for years now.

    covid19 was a classic example.

    They could have tackled the issue head on that maybe the vaccines weren't going to be as effective as the politicians promised, or maybe that locking people in their homes for months on end needed questioning.

    No, instead they'd find some rando online who was talking about vaccines having 5g microchips in them as a government mind control experiment and then "debunk" this a ridiculous random X opinion that almost no one actually believes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,676 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,676 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Just when you think they couldn't descend any lower. They really are the scum of the earth.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,676 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I really don't know why the anti-everything crowd are still so upset about what happened five years ago. Everyone else has moved on with their lives.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,409 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    No, just not getting baited into discussing a forbidden topic, simple enough really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    All Gript has done by posting that video after an accused has appeared in court is give the defence reasonable grounds to have the case thrown out, because they can claim any jury is compromised.

    I'd call it gutter journalism but that would imply it was any form of journalism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 40,676 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Site Banned Posts: 33,931 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    You can detail the area of alleged inaccuracies without getting into discussing the actual case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,176 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They've got to keep the grift going. I was wondering when they'd come after the Church's victims. Surprised it took them this long, honestly. Not surprised to see some posters still defending this hate blog.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,375 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    There's a pretty big range of anti vaccine conspiracy theories from the people that still exist. They weren't simply around efficacy, they were around them being outright dangerous. I did find about 5 different articles on various things going around during the period and they were fine. Here's one on the efficacy which is perfectly clear and accurate.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/do-covid-19-vaccines-prevent-transmission-5919387-Nov2022/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,601 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I generally find when someone says 'So you're saying/in favour of x' what they're actually trying to do is reframe what the person said into something they didn't say.

    Here's a great example of it:

    I didn't see the person you quoted saying that at all. What they said was that Gript.ie specifically (I doubt they are the only people they disagree with) belongs in the gutter.

    I'd go one further and say that they don't 'belong' in the gutter, they actually are in the gutter. With a lot of their readership.

    Just look at this for an article headline. Disgusting.

    https://gript.ie/the-dangerous-hysteria-around-tuam/

    And if you think that's bad, read some of the comments on it from it's readership.

    Article literally about dead babies and they manage to make it about feminists, the evil left, gulags.

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  • Site Banned Posts: 33,931 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Mod: Warned for discussing matters before the courts.

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    I generally find that people use the most extreme examples possible to define the general position of anyone not aligned with their beliefs.

    Gript exists, it allows for differing opinions from the main stream (in modern Ireland that is increasingly centre left to left wing) and it carries the more unreasonable elements of anything to the right of the current norm with it.

    The problem with a very left leaning media and political class is that it smacks down anyone who steps out of line immediately. Makes fascists out of people with reasonable concerns and generally makes examples of anyone who doesn't respect the unreasonable status quo.

    Gript isn't perfect, I personally don't use it all that much but we need something, anything that isn't part other current mainstream, even if you don't like it.



  • Site Banned Posts: 33,931 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    The 'very left wing media' including the Times on Sunday, Irish Mail, The Sun, Newstalk, even the Indo/SIndo?

    Ireland must be the only country in the world where Rupert Murdoch is running left wing media outlets.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,421 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    I’ve also got a similar feeling towards liberal.ie


    I think it’s bizarre that if some feel a portion of media and news outlets don’t represent them that they should go towards sensationalism for the sake of a counterpoint. It’s not counterpoint, it’s just whatever gets people frustrated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Exactly. People looking to be angry.

    Also, this perception that the media has to represent 'viewpoints' and not actual fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The proof of the pudding is in the eating Andy, Does Rupert have these publications printing endless far right opinion pieces? Of course not, mostly the opposite, because Rupert is smart enough to know what sells. In Ireland what sells is left wing waffle.

    The likes of Fintan O'Toole and Kitty Holland have made careers out of it and have the houses in affluent Dublin suburbs to show for it thank you very much.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    At the end of the day, Gript is simply The Journal on the opposite side of the spectrum.

    If you read The Journal and think it represents factual, unbiased reporting, then you will be driven in paroxysms of rage by Gript. If you read Gript and think it represents factual, unbiased reporting, then you will have the same reaction to The Journal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,343 ✭✭✭prunudo


    I always laugh when I see comments in here from the usual anti Gript posters. Why does Gript, the content of its articles and the opinion of its readers bother you so much. At this stage we know you all hate it, why does it grate you so much, why not ignore and move on.

    I tell you why, there is a serious tone of moral grandstanding from the posts, we see you, we are not allowed to have a different view. There is a section of society that will do everything in their power to ensure the status quo contuines and it is cheered on by nodding , Gript don't take money from the system, they can't be controlled and that scares some people therefore they get flack. Back in your boxes plebs and don't think for yourself is the name of the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,105 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Their output is clearly aimed at single issue thickos. Was lockdowns, now its immigration.

    Look at the top of the website today. 8 stories, 6 about immigration.

    I think they just look at whats trending on Twitter in Ireland and write about that.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think a lot of the over-the-top reaction comes from the fact that a certain viewpoint didn't have a "professional" outlet before now (at least not in modern times) and it has caused great annoyance to liberal Ireland that "this kind of thing" is now allowed. Before Gript, certain viewpoints could be dismissed as "that mad Twitter crowd" (and still are) or whatever. In all societies, challenging the prevailing orthodoxy leads to opprobrium from the "good people" who uphold the current accepted dogma. Having conservative or right-wing views in 2020's Ireland is the same as having liberal or left-wing views in 1950's Ireland - it rubs a large, vocal, powerful group up the wrong way, and makes them angry. The wheel always turns.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,105 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    The do love a good baiting aswell. Top story today.

    https://gript.ie/dfa-offers-e120k-contract-for-africa-day-celebrations/

    Doesnt criticise, offers no opinion. Just leaves it out there. "Africa Day" in quotations. Knows it'll cause outrage within the thick community.

    And then when you read who wrote it:

    Some religious nutter.

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    And you've Niamh Uí Bhriain. A mad woman who founded the Youth Defence.

    Fatima Gunning. Another religious loon.

    Big John. We know the craic there.

    Scallan. In the Irish Freedom Party. More religious nutjobs.

    Can see why they have a selective readership. In the Year of our Lord 2025.



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