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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Anson Mount interview if anyone interested, interesting enough and good interview

    ANSON MOUNT: Star Trek Concerns, Unexpected Blowback & Staying in the Moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,275 ✭✭✭Rawr


    It think the Voyager episode where Tuvok has a flashback of his days on USS Excelsior, Janeway comments that Sulu looks nothing like his portrait at Starfleet. Tuvok replies that Holo-technology at the time was limited.

    It’s possible TOS-era had some Holo-technology, but that it was limited to very special cases like making portraits of important Starfleet figures like Cpt. Sulu. It’s likely that The Daystrom Institute had some kind of working holodeck on campus during TOS, but probably not one thar could be easily packaged into a Starship. It could be that the technology just wasn’t compact enough until the TNG era and the appearance of ships like the Galaxy Class.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Pretty weird comment for Janeway and Tuvok to make tbh. Like fair enough, holodecks as depicted in TNG were super advanced almost magical things with TARDIS style properties and holograms that you could feel, taste and smell. You could really believe that we're at least four centuries away from them. But not having working cameras in the 23rd century? Come on. Purely photographic holograms in the early 21st century are already quite decent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,483 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya it's more likely that his official photo is just him way younger or touched up.

    Star Trek is full of these dumb comments in fairness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Only seen the first episode so far and it was a good one

    Shows a big difference when you are rooting for a character, whose name you know, to not die (unlike Disco where I could barely remember their names or care less about them)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Oh, just wait 'til you get to ep 2:-)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I can name loads of characters from Disco. There is:

    Tilly

    Michael

    Stametz

    Good looking half Scottish, half Indian guy who sometimes goes by the name of Voq

    Captain Pike

    Err…

    Oh I forgot Book! The Main Coon cat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Yeah - won't be going out of my way to watch that one again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,483 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    "Good looking half Scottish, half Indian guy who sometimes goes by the name of Voq"

    Clem stupid fuking name Fandango.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭corkie


    Okay avoid spoilers going in and just so people are aware two episode where released.

    I was multitasking with the first episode and didn't grab my attention, so probably have to rewatch.

    Second episode was not fond of but watch the whole thing anyway.

    Just wondering how long it took for it to 'CLICK' with people, who/what was involved with it? It dawned on me pretty quickly. As I said I had no spoilers are prior knowledge watching!

    "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana
    "But that's balanced out by the fact that it's a mandate not to do very much." ~ Prof. Eoin O'Malley



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I spoilt myself - was checking who one of the actors was and saw a big spoiler in the cast list, was leaning that way tho. Should have actually appeared tho



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,572 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I started watching the first episode of the new season, realised I had no idea what was going on so just finished watching the season 2 finale now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,483 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    First episode is good. Had some silly moments and the same h

    Second episode is a total waste just to satisfy a fan theory. I hate just how on the nose they have to be with everything and how much time they waste with stuff like this to please the fan sites.

    Luckily the show has enough good characters and actors to make even these terrible episodes some way enjoyable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    "modify the deflector shields". Yeah that was going to be my suggestion as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    You would think having watched the last episode a couple of times in the last couple of months, I'd be all set, but I got confused as well, and ended up going back to watch S2E10 again before watching episode 1.

    Glad I wasnt the only one who had to do that.

    Watching episode 2 now. It's a struggle to get through it.

    Ah feck. I should have seen that coming.

    My least favourite TNG episodes often involved Q, so yeah, no wonder I wasnt enjoying this one.

    Post edited by LambshankRedemption on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    I also went back to S2E10 before watching the new one as I had absolutely no recollection of it!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,880 ✭✭✭pah




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,504 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Just an FYI for people who are following this thread but may not be following the forum - there are episode specific threads per SNW episode where spoilers can be discussed e.g.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058419921/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-s3-e1-hegemony-part-ii-spoilers-whitin#latest

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 539 ✭✭✭eadrom


    Season 4 teaser…

    The "no whacky episodes" folks might want to look away 🫣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,906 ✭✭✭Evade


    Disco did have the hologram as a mirror, for some reason



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,282 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Not quite sure is that an actual clip from an episode or just the trailer folk having a laugh. Straight out of that season 5 "Angel" episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I came here to post that.

    The "no whacky episodes" folks might want to look away

    I think my fellow "no whacky episodes" comrades will agree we have just come to accept it's going to be 2 whacky episodes per season, and many of us were expecting a Muppet episode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,301 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    I bet that last sentence is one you never thought you'd ever type!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,782 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I'll all for SNW pushing the boundaries and the lower decks cross over is probably one of my all time favorites - of all episodes.

    It just annoys me that in a 10 episode run, it has been arbitrarily decided that 2 are going to be really out there.

    Btw, we still don't know if s3e02 is considered one of the whacky ones yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,301 ✭✭✭DoctorEdgeWild


    Yeah, totally agree (apart from anything to do with LD, which is definitely not my cup of tea!). It's the one thing that holds SNW back. When you have so few episodes, it's such a shame to throw a couple of them away. A comedic sub-plot would serve the series better if they insist on doing comedy, similar to how TNG/VOY/DS9 did things. A main plot line to push or tell a story, with a comedic sub-plot for the laughs.

    I'm still massively enthused about SNW as a whole though, I really thought DIS was so bad that it could have killed Star Trek dead as a going concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 539 ✭✭✭eadrom


    When you have so few episodes, it's such a shame to throw a couple of them away.

    I really don't get this line of thinking. Was The Inner Light a throw away episode? Or Darmok, or Yesterday's Enterprise, or Cause & Effect, or Relics, or the two Moriarty episodes, or the Nth Degree, or Evolution, or… I could go on. None of them advanced anything. We were in the same place at the end of the episode as we were at the beginning, just with a little adventure in-between.

    I think people are just counting "episodes I don't personally enjoy" as being "throw away"? But that's a bit unfair. There is no grand narrative on SNW that needs to be advanced each week. The Gorn weren't attacking at the start of the Hegemony two-parter and they weren't attacking at the end of it either. Wouldn't have made much difference to anything if those episodes didn't exist… so they're throw away too?

    Nah. They're all just episodes. Sure there's some you don't like personally, which is a shame, but I don't know what people are hoping for when they complain that this one or that one hasn't "progressed" anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,483 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The difference most people feel is that they were 26 episode seasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 539 ✭✭✭eadrom


    But 26 mostly "throw away" episodes, if we're talking about episodes which don't advance any narrative beyond their own self-contained 45 minute runtime. And those TNG episodes I mentioned are known as some of the best of the series.

    It's probably just semantics though. People want some serious Star Trek and consider the lighter / funnier / sillier ones to be just taking up space in an already short season. Fair enough, but that's a matter of taste really (and I tend to like the silly ones just fine, I think SNW does them well). It's not like we're constantly ending on exciting cliffhangers and then unexpectedly taking a break from the on-going story for an episode or two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,518 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    I think when you get comparatively so few episodes per season, you expect more from them.

    Darmok might not have done anything to advance the story, but it was more universe building and it didnt need to advance any storyline by itself as there were 25 other chances to do that.

    Its also one of my favourite and most referenced episodes across all of ST :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,220 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Advancing things isn't the point. What if we never got the Inner Light or Darmok, and instead, got Picard and Riker dancing around the ship as a musical? That's the point.



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