Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD Mod Note Added 14/08/25

Gen.Zhukov · 27-07-2025 11:04PM

Lads, I think I may switch sides and start gorging from the trough (in a purely ~~self enriching~~ altruistic exercise you understand)

So the plan is -

I will set up a new and badly needed Irish NGO - This new NGO will primarily be an umbrella organisation to protect, promote and lobby on behalf of the many NGOs involved in making vast sums of money from the immigration/better-lifers industry.

I will call this new NGO - the Alliance of Non Governmental Organisations Liberals Agenda - or, 'ANGOLA' as its acronym

As the CEO of ANGOLA, I will immediately begin to drawdown a €89,980 pa salary (paid for by you) - I intend to supplement this modest salary by earning some really easy money (paid for by you) by making many appearances on the 'talking-heads' radio shows, like Brendan 'don't sue me' O'Connor's liberal sh!tshow - At some stage, I'll engage a talent management agent to get me on the TV show circuit which will raise my profile even further (I'm looking at you Rory) as I waffle progressive scutter at every opportunity, and hopefully get a column in the Irish Times to do the same (alongside the incredible Kitty Holland)

The long-term plan and eventual goal is to have a crack at the various elections - Euro, Seanad, General - Should I be successful here, I'll be in the big money at last and I can look forward to sucking on the taxpayer's teat for many years to come.

And finally, I'd like to acknowledge and thank the people that inspired me in this grand plan - Ms Sinead Gibney* (SD) the founding member of the Ultimate grift club, and Sen Aubrey McCarthy (Ind) Tent dispenser extraordinaire - I should also mention the amazing Ms Hazel Chu for her tenacity in trying to climb aboard the gravy train (solely for the benefit of Ireland as she has so much to offer)

- *Sinead's first significant action within weeks of getting the IHREC role was to potter on down to Leinster House looking for a €20k increase in the already generous salary - You go girl! - It was declined thankfully - (that info was easy to find before/during her attempt at becoming an MEP, but got the - 'Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe' treatment, before her successful run in the GE) - It still maybe possible to find but more digging needed - It's not just the pigs in suits with their snouts in the trough…the ladies that lunch are well up for it too

The socialist libs are just so naive voting for griftmeisters like this - Mark my words, someone somewhere will start dragging a few of her skeletons out of the closet

InAtFullBack · 27-07-2025 11:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123675709#Comment_123675709

Why are you talking about the left here as if they have any power to make these decisions ?? It's down to the government not the " left ".

This government and previous governments have been bankrolling NGOs/lobby groups in the immigration sector for many years now. Has this government or any previous government channeled even a 1c coin into NGOs/lobby groups who campaign for less immigration into Ireland. So the question begs, if you are funding NGOs and lobby groups, why would you ignore the polished annual reports they produce?

Looking broadly at the output of said NGOs and lobby groups, its entirely fair to say that these organisations are heavily left-wing in their stances and campaigns.

The government write law and make housing policy and none of this is down to the left as the left have not been in government for the last 10 years !

The Green Party were in power up until the dissolution of the 33rd Dail on the 8th day of November 2024. Anyone with even half a functioning brain cell can accurately establish the Irish Green Party as a left-wing party.

Go look at SDCC for example for rules on eligibility btw . It is not discriminatory , based on max income levels , and anyone applying on a housing list has to be resident here for a while before being allowed to even apply . Then they wait a few more years . Anybody talking about anything other than emergency accommodation is talking utter tripe .

It is morally repulsive that anyone can come from another country and can leap-frog an Irish person who is waiting on the housing list in this country. No ifs, buts, or ands will change that.

I won't link because everytime I do my post disappears but it's on their website all about eligibility.

Doesn't make it right. These 'eligibility' criteria puff pieces need to be urgently reviewed, and amended to include a clause that only when the full list of Irish natives on a housing list in a local council area is fulfilled that they will then only begin to consider non-Irish applicants - and especially when it comes to other EU nationalities.

Ones can scream racist, phobes and all other low IQ tropes all they want at that last paragraph, but at the end of the day, it's what most Irish people want. It's high time that part of the social contract was honoured.

satguy · 28-07-2025 12:34AM

Back in my youth (40 years ago) I would have stood up for Palestinian rights.

As an Irish nation, we know all too well how it feels to have a bigger stronger neighbour. We know how it feels when they wield a big stick, and use it to put us down, or to take our land.

But now, in Ireland we live in dark times, our cities are powder kegs. You can feel it in the air, and now standing up for the rights of others may well take a back seat.

So these days, I do not worry about Palestinian rights,, I worry for our own country.

I worry about the unvetted strangers I see roaming our streets.

CollyFlower · 28-07-2025 12:52AM

The Irish government keeps throwing money at the NGOs working in immigration, it’s clearly not working, if anything, they’re making things worse... Meanwhile, Russia is nosing around in our waters and we can’t even defend our own coastline, how embarrassing that must be for them.... Or is it still a case of "We Welcome All" eve the submarines. I do despair.... Time to Cop on lads.

tom23 · 28-07-2025 08:26AM

hopefully Ms Gibney is a one term TD.

zell12 · 28-07-2025 08:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123536585#Comment_123536585

The sitting government are us the voters. We decided to vote FF & FG back in repeatedly, despite us having one of the most democratic voting systems in the world. ~65% of adults are homeowners who vote to retain the status quo

twinytwo · 28-07-2025 09:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676216#Comment_123676216

They get voted back in as there is no alternative - they are the best of all bad options.

No one actually believes SF, Labour, SD's etc have an iota of what they are actually doing. That much is clear.

So we are where we are.

Headshot · 28-07-2025 09:46AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676314#Comment_123676314

This country is desperate for a right wing party like Reform or I even go as far as the AFD but not to actually vote AFD but rather actually adopt their ideas to take voters off them. For example in Germany CDU have had to become stricter on immigration because of the rise of the AFD.

RobbieTheRobber · 28-07-2025 10:01AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676216#Comment_123676216

The sitting government are the majority of the voters intentions, yes. Absolutely agree.

I don't think you need to tell me any of this Zell.

It is the voluntary mushrooms in the thread (fed on **** and staying in the dark) who wiggle and waggle around the fact that the majority choose middle ground politics (FF and FG on the right and Labour, SD and Sinn Fein on the left).

The only real option for change is therefore centre left parties, but the mushrooms in thread are screaming for a racist right party (that is never getting close to power in Ireland) and then waffle NGO and global conspiracy.

While the whole time it is domestic politicians (FF, FG) supporting the voter base who elected them enacting these polices not the WEF or NGO.

crusd · 28-07-2025 10:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676002#Comment_123676002

Or to paraphrase "dark man scary"

Backstreet Moyes · 28-07-2025 11:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676341#Comment_123676341

Do we need a far right party though.

Don't we just need a party that will implement common sense policies.

Aren't Denmark left learning but they have put policies in place to reduce immigration?

prunudo · 28-07-2025 11:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676682#Comment_123676682

I think for that common sense to be implemented, you need right and left opposition to keep the big or govt parties centred.

twinytwo · 28-07-2025 12:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676383#Comment_123676383

You mean centre left as in the greens? Labour? Social Democrats? Oh there would be change alright and not the good kind.

tom23 · 28-07-2025 12:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676793#Comment_123676793

if that’s the alternative well I’ll stick with the tried and very much untrusted. Could you imagine the amount of white papers that trio would release.

Backstreet Moyes · 28-07-2025 12:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676691#Comment_123676691

I know what mean but it shouldn't need to.

A party is elected to work in the interest of its citizens.

The suggestion that they do that brings out all the isms from a certain cohort of people.

I hope we follow the route of Denmark but I don't expect it.

While others get stricter and we do nothing the numbers are only going to increase.

Considering our fascination with Palestine on the world stage I would be shocked if we don't get a load of them in the future also.

prunudo · 28-07-2025 12:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676852#Comment_123676852

A party is elected to work in the interest of its citizens

Unfortunately the reality is they work for the ngo's and lobbyists, they have forgotten they are there to help and protect the interest of the countries citizens.

RobbieTheRobber · 28-07-2025 04:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676793#Comment_123676793

Can't wait for the next post about another Eu country and their centre left government and how well they are dealing with immigration.

🤣🤣

RobbieTheRobber · 28-07-2025 04:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676902#Comment_123676902

The reality is that's a conspiracy that has no basis on actual facts!

But but but the WEF……………………………….

🤣🤣

Goldengirl · 28-07-2025 04:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123675862#Comment_123675862

Lol Socialist libs !

What about those who voted for "the Independents " who promptly jumped ship and rowed in with the government Big 2 ...

All on the promise of getting a few of the most grumpy of them new junior ministries to get their own snouts in the trough as you put it so well ...

So what about the Right Wing nationalists getting their own slap.in the face !

You cannot be seriously trying to make out that the opposition are coining it ?!

Goldengirl · 28-07-2025 04:52PM

Green Party are not left wing they are pretty conservative in many ways as well as being more into the climate than the needs of ordinary people .

Edit , adding "needs of " .

Goldengirl · 28-07-2025 04:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676151#Comment_123676151

So I take it you won't be voting for her again ?😂

Goldengirl · 28-07-2025 05:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676682#Comment_123676682

That notion of "common sense politics " came from America and Trump . It's very conservative right wing stuff and doesn't suit Irish people who are in general centre left .

We have governments who implement common sense policies for Ireland as voted by , is it 65% of the electorate ,zell ?

Do why do you think because there are a few people posting here or on other dark corners of the internet that the majority would veer to this "right wing common sense stuff " ?

Goldengirl · 28-07-2025 05:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123676341#Comment_123676341

Because Germany does not want to elect a political group that supports fascism ..not something to be crowing about really .

28-07-2025 05:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123677783#Comment_123677783

ah here.

The greens aren’t left wing now!

The “ff and fg are right wing” stuff is funny enough but don’t jump the shark completely.

I suppose when “far right” has just come to mean “anyone who disagrees with open borders” then we can describe any political ideology as anything we want since it’s all lost meaning anyway.

Anyone up for discussing the New Communism of the national party?

28-07-2025 05:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123677846#Comment_123677846

sure if the greens aren’t left wing then we can surely argue that the afd are.

Goldengirl · 28-07-2025 05:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123677851#Comment_123677851

I never said they FF or FG were right wing ....they are centre right and centre . .

Do you not know what far right is really ? Are you denying the existence of it ?

Somebody on here vouching for AfD a while ago ..I would say that is a fairly far right view . But if you agree as some did you can tell yourself she ( me ) is just a leftie and that makes supporting fascist ideology ok ..

28-07-2025 05:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123677865#Comment_123677865

lol.

Denying the existence of far right political ideology? What are you on about?

Stick to what I say in my posts if you’ve a question don’t mind your silly games.

Goldengirl · 28-07-2025 05:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123677874#Comment_123677874

"I suppose when “far right” has just come to mean “anyone who disagrees with open borders” then we can describe any political ideology as anything we want since it’s all lost meaning anyway."

That was in reply to this . Your point above is denying that some who are posting about not agreeing with open borders are actually posting far right ideology as well.

Everyone posting might not be but some are and denying the existence of people like that on here and in this country is what supporters of various. hotchpotch of " Irish for the Irish " are being advised to do to not turn more moderate people off .

28-07-2025 05:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123677917#Comment_123677917

literally none of that makes any sense in the context of what you or I posted, it is merely you projecting your far-right-bogeyman fantasies onto me.
Learn the basics of political ideology before making grand statements.
Claiming the greens are not left wing, and are in fact conservative is laughable.

Goldengirl · 28-07-2025 05:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123677944#Comment_123677944

What's laughable is you twisting a post so that you can then try to rubbish another's entire posting history . I did not say left or right wing re Greens that would be you taking it out of context

I am not a supporter of the Greens precisely because of those certain views . Local candidate was antiabortion that's conservative in my book.

You spend your time here telling posters who disagree with you that they are fantasists or don't know what they are talking about. Last one was ACD before that RTR. My turn now is it ?

..enjoy your holiday in the Balkans or have you come back with more wishes to be more like them ?

Now who's fantasisng ?

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