Kilkenny GAA Thread

Was no fluke to draw with Limerick, beat clare, waterford,laois,galway,kilkenny and finally beat munster and league champions cork.

Reading Craig Morgans diary on the examiner, Dillon Quirkes passing had more of an effect on the team then maybe we initially thought so may explain some of the poor performances 2023,2024.

Yes it is one of the greatest all Ireland ever won in fairness, epic match against Limerick, epic match against Clare, epic match against Kilkenny, they had to negotiate a lot of tough opposition whilst being written off to win the All Ireland.

One massive factor which did help them was finishing third in Munster this year and also having a bye week last in Munster, it allowed them to embrace the u20 All Ireland and enjoy it without a fixture overload and Munster final to fit in around that. It was almost a reset for them.

Richie Hogan is acting as a pundit, he is asked for his opinion, his predictions and other questions. It would/will do his future prospects as a pundit no good to continously give poor quality answers out of bitterness, so why when a pundit gives an opinion ye don't like it is it put down to bitterness? If in hindsight he is proven to be very off in his assessment, well then ye have satisfaction of knowing he was wrong and possibly having egg on his face. This is not enough in Tipp though, pundits, podcast hosts, reporters and analysts added to curated lists of those that didn't predict a dominant Tipp win or even just said things disagreeable to Tipp, ready to be used to call out those on the lists should Tipp win.

This was the case for the semi final too a match where most people found it very difficult to predict a winner, but pundits found themselves on said lists for the crime of giving Kilkenny the nod when pressed.

All the while, particularly before the final, Tipp posters such as you were at the same time peddling the lines about Tipp being in bonus territory, too early in their development, free shot etc.

I hope you’re joking.

Yee won the all Ireland completely out of the blue even for the most optimistic tipp fan it came as a shock

It was cork that yee beat in the final not kk so I just don’t understand the constant jibes at Kilkenny the better team on the day won the final and that was tipp

Yee should be to busy celebrating to care what else happened during the year

It’s really petty stuff and there’s no need for it yee have the Liam Mcarthy back get on with it and enjoy it

I wasnt talking about you more the premier view pod

It’s easy be wise after the fact if kk took the beating tipp did in the league final you would very easily say not many kk players would get in the cork team as cork looked unreal around then

A lot of pundits quite rightly compared tipps early season form as a trait that Liam Cahill teams have with a potential drop off before the championship similarly to his last year in Waterford when they won the league under him

Yeah Richie probably could have said maybe a few more tipp players would get into the cork team but a lot of pundits had tipp and Waterford in a toss up for maybe sneaking into third in Munster at the time

Cork Limerick and Clare were most peoples top 3 before a ball was pucked in the league never mind championship

I don’t see a lot of the tipp media that wanted Cahills head last year been snipped at online now or there comments last year being put up for click bait now

Fluke was the wrong choice of word, Tipp deserved to win the All Ireland but when a team comes from almost nowhere and wins to everyone's surprise, then the test is whether they can follow it up. Not that they need to for Tipp supporters, as I'd imagine this was was sweet enough to sate the appetite for a few years.

I would imagine that's very much tongue in cheek.
Disappointing to see Mick Fennelly go but it's another chance of a re-set and a fresh pair of eyes over the development side of things. If the right person is appointed it can still be a positive.

'Personal circumstances' is always a very ambiguous reason though. I'm hoping it's because he's leaving because he's been offered a better career opportunity for him and his family, rather than because of him being at his wits end dealing with the dinosaurs in Nowlan Park.

It'll be interesting to see do the county board replace Fennelly at all. He's come in and put structures in place over the 3(?) years. Do they put someone new in or very quietly do nothing and as a collective maintain his ideas for a few years to see if they pay off. From memory the job description when advertised was pretty extensive and in reality was probably a 2 person job for what they wanted at the time.

I am a lot more confident than many posters that Kilkenny can recover. It's time for the many brilliant hurlers, teachers and minds to unite and work as a team to help each other build stronger foundations to enable the natural Kilkenny hurling talent play at the highedt level. That means taking turns being in charge, time being followers and doing the spade work. There is no place for club, colleges or other rivalry given our current predicament.

Derek Lyng is a very good manager; in the Cody mold and spirit; a leader on and off the field; a model for any young man or woman; someone you would be happy to see motivate your son or daughter, calm, seasoned, great experience, making players take responsibility for their own self development and self motivation; holding young players back until their S&C are ready for the demanding intercounty physicality and they continue to demonstrate an appetite for the tough journey. In contrast, I do not like to see nutcase managers going berserk on the sideline or in the media; driving highly talented youngsters to early burnout. Sadly too many Munster hurlers who fit the latter mild. I hope they take a good look at the personalities who have managed / motivated 4 in a row teams (Cody, Kiely, Gavin) and how they didn't burn out a lot of talent in the process.

Lyng, Henry, Brian Hogan, Rice, Mick Fennelly, Peter Barry, Taggy, Jj, Gorta, Tommy, to name but a few are great leaders but in our hour of need the true test is whether they can work together without egos and help rebuild our hurling prowess at all levels. The CB and clubs need to play their part. Nicky Brennan, ? Quinn, Fogarty were a team and a key part of our 2000-2015 success. As were the teachers and coaches who selflessly gave (and are giving) their time in developing the great players in Ballyhale, Carrickshock, OLG, Village, Tullaroan, Gowran, Johnstown, Thomastown, Callan etc. Time to stop bickering and start working together.

They're fair insufferable. Had a go at independent because all their pundits went for a cork win on Saturday.

Oh mother of god, now I know you’re **** with my head ,much too early in the morning for this.

Yes that is true, but lets not disguise over management failing to handle the last 10 minutes of the game and sticking with Deegan and Reid in the backs when they are bet against top opposition

We're not that far away at ll. If we had a good centre back against Tipp or an option at full back (and play Huw at 6) plus Paddy Deegan in the half forward line instead of Mullen we would have beaten the all ireland winners.

I disagree, he started off shaky but he was actually starting to settle into the position when the management panicked and sent him back to full back when the full back was injured I think.