BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

I presume the new 73 will be diverted away from College Green perhaps via Winetavern Street instead.

I imagine once Spencer Dock station is built, the terminus points in that area may well be revisited (not necessarily reverting to the original BC plan of all routes terminating there, mind you).

I think I have misremembered something, as I am not sure where I got that it was going to be the C1 and C2. I have a memory of seeing a BC map showing C-spine buses using the south Quays and the new bridge but I have no idea where it is. They did remove all of the local maps from the BC website (likely from being so out-of-date) so it might have been there, but I don't thhink it was.

That said I believe it is still planned to send some of the C-spine over the Dodder PT bridge. On the Ringsend scheme website, in EIAR, Volume 2, Chapter 2, "Need for the Proposed Scheme," Section 2.2.2, Page 17, it says "On the south quays, the C-Spine from Lucan will continue to Ringsend and Poolbeg to provide a new service enabled by the key new bridge link across the River Dodder." However I think I might have hallucinated it being the C1 and C2 specifically.

Thinking about it more it also wouldn't make much sense to send that much service across on the South Quays. Like you say Pearse St is a high demand corridor. If anything I would think their options would be to divert one of the C1 or C2 not both or to divert the C3 and C4. I think the former is more likely.

W4 seems to be quite busy even during the evening, today I saw the 18:30 from Blanchardstown depart with the "bus full" sign on. No idea if that's a regular occurrence. But I think most people just travel between Blanch SC and Liffey Valley SC.

Is Go Ahead planning to expand bus services on Dublin southside?

Specifically, any extra routes that will be servicing Dundrum area… and the LUAS station?

Interesting that the 40e isn't included in the switch, I wonder why not since the switch to L62 is more of a route number change with some increased frequency and a slightly shorter route at the Broombridge end, not as dramatic a change as the spine routes. The L89, a completely new route will be similar to the proposed Broombridge to Charlestown luas extension but only operating every hour to every 2 hours, it'll be interesting to see how well used it is. I guess the L89 will cease once luas is built. On the main F spine it's disappointing that all F routes will use Witworth Road and the Ballymun/Finglas core bus corridor project made no effort to but in bus priority there given that it's the only bottleneck and significant source of delay for the 40 route at the minute.

I take your general point that there isn't going to be another high frequency route that will serve the Whitworth Road. Though I think it would have made sense to shift the O route to that instead.

However, it does seem that for the vast majority of people using the F spine to get from Finglas to the City Centre or beyond, they have to sacrifice speed in order to do so.

I'd rather it be late and done properly. Good to hear it'll be landing in October. Regarding Whitworth road, we only need look at the old cabra road in the Blanchardstown scheme to see what can be done.

A simple bus gate at the vision Ireland centre would do it. So all access to the west of that point is via the Glasnevin end and all access east of that is via the Drumcondra side, no through cars only buses and access with camera enforcement at vision Ireland.