Thinking of moving to EV

...Ghost... · 23-07-2025 02:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123662613#Comment_123662613

The difference between the diesel and charging is 10 minutes a week vs 45 minutes a day which only puts in 30% into the machine.

This is because you don't avail of home charging, in which case you move from 10 minutes per week to about 10 seconds per night. You don't have to sit in the car when it's charging. Assuming the car is on the driveway for 12 hours The car charges at 2.2kW/h on the granny charger, 12 hours at 2.2kWh is ~26kWh, or close to half filling the battery of the MG if it was empty. A proper charge point would fill the car in 8 hours, but we are assuming no investment of a real charger.

No the car is not suitable for my families needs as it will not accommodate our dog for long journeys (the car was sold as a perk of the job as we could use it for personal use).

Was it not an MG EV you said you had? Maybe I picked it up wrong and you can clarify what make/model you have? I would have thought that an MG is ideal for carrying a dog on long journeys. My Model 3 wasn't a car for the dog, but the Leaf works great for our German Pointer even though it's a small hatch. The Model Y will be perfect after I get my boot mats installed. The MG5 or even the ZS would be perfect for dogs.

€5bn a year is nothing compared against the tax (1 euro in 8 euro in over all tax according to Eddie Hobbs) that the government get from the tax payer. I mean we are not as bad as the UK but we are fairly high up there considering how much oil we have off Ireland. Then you have to consider the carbon tax on diesel.

€5B a year is not exactly small change. It's an extraordinary amount of money. How can you suggest it's nothing compared to the tax take? If I took 1 euro out of every 8 you earned, would it be nothing? We are talking billions here. That's nearly 15,000 bike sheds at Leinster house, each costing over €330,000.

...Ghost... · 23-07-2025 02:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123662655#Comment_123662655

The subsidy of €3,500? 🤣. I think I would have went EV anyway. The subsidies in truth just went to the manufacturers. The consumer saw little to nothing of the savings. Look to Canada as the example and how Tesla dropped the price by the amount of the tariffs imposed by Trump.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123662769#Comment_123662769

Nonsense not worthy of an answer.

...Ghost... · 23-07-2025 02:50PM

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🤣😂🤣

Ok. Someone is sipping diesel on the pub stool and it ain't me.

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 02:50PM

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You make an awful lot of assumptions……… We are NOT investing in the car because she is NOT happy in the job. The Job should be paying for the charger and paying for the domestic electricity use. That is the way it is set up. Its an MG3, Charlie is a St Bernard (long haired option) and it just wouldnt suit Charlie with hair and slobber in the commercial car.

That s my point, 5 Bn is nothing in the greater plan of the nations fuel bill. Most of that 5Bn comes out the tax that is added on by the government. 50-55% of Irish fuel is made up tax….. boy those revenue boys do love their tax. You would think they had nothing better to do

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 02:58PM

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But you are not running the company. You can find "Charlie" in to a MG 3, best of luck with that.

I am not sure you really understand the problem at all. Can you come over and we have a chat about it? I feel we could make real progess.

...Ghost... · 23-07-2025 03:06PM

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You make an awful lot of assumptions……… We are NOT investing in the car because she is NOT happy in the job. The Job should be paying for the charger and paying for the domestic electricity use. That is the way it is set up. Its an MG3, Charlie is a St Bernard (long haired option) and it just wouldnt suit Charlie with hair and slobber in the commercial car.

You have an EV with the smallest boot outside of a Renault Zoe or Fiat 500 and you happen to have one of the largest dog breeds. I wouldn't put a St Bernard in one either. I wouldn't have a St Bernard because they are so big, hairy and slobbery, but that's another lifestyle choice against your EV I suppose.

That s my point, 5 Bn is nothing in the greater plan of the nations fuel bill. Most of that 5Bn comes out the tax that is added on by the government. 50-55% of Irish fuel is made up tax….. boy those revenue boys do love their tax. You would think they had nothing better to do

Our idea of of nothing seems vastly different. I happen to think €5B is a huge chunk every year and I don't have the EV subsidy figure, but I don't think it comes close to €5B. Regardless of what the Gov collect from taxes of fuel, they are still subsiding diesel to the tune of €5B as of 2023, likely more in 2024. As you say, if it can't stand on its own…..

Alun · 23-07-2025 03:10PM

Isn't the MG 3 a hybrid?

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 03:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663084#Comment_123663084

There maybe an option for an MG 3 hybrid but this is definitely all electric.

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 03:24PM

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You would be surprised how much you pay in tax. So that 5Bn subsidy is 5Bn after the tax was applied and boy does those boy in revenue love them tax. So if we are reducing subsidies then we should reduce taxes in response.

...Ghost... · 23-07-2025 03:28PM

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I also thought the MG3 was a Mild Hybrid, but took you at your word. I can't see any MG3 BEV. or even a PHEV anywhere. Really starting to smell BS under the troll bridge here. Can't/won't granny charge. Moving in 3 years and won't install charger…neither will the company, even though it's a private use perk. Wife leaving job soon. Biggest dog and smallest car. 30% power in 45 mins. Sorry lad, but you're talking shíte.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663130#Comment_123663130

Someone doesn't understand subsidies and tax.

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 03:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663141#Comment_123663141

Checked with Mrs Cat its an MG5 SW. Still too small for Charlie. Would you like a picture of Charlie?

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 03:40PM

HHappy?

Cyrus · 23-07-2025 04:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123662877#Comment_123662877

thats dung to be fair.

Cyrus · 23-07-2025 04:05PM

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No lithium mines near me but lots of cancerous diesel fumes…

45 minutes at any sort of fast charger would get you 70-80%, something isnt adding up…

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 04:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663250#Comment_123663250

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The Kia EV6 in Ireland starts from €50,160 according to Kia. This price is for the entry-level EV6 Earth model and includes the SEAI grant and delivery. The price can increase based on trim level and optional extras. For example, the EV6 GT can reach around €85,000.

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SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 04:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663257#Comment_123663257

Maybe it is a good car that has been made crap with an EV model? Yeah lithium open mining is some of the nastiest in the world up there with gold mining. Plenty of evaporating pans and waste water.

Cyrus · 23-07-2025 04:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663266#Comment_123663266

and how does anything you have written make a car thats 50k now become 100k if they took away the subsidies? There are lots of 100k EVs but that wasnt what you were saying.

Cyrus · 23-07-2025 04:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663275#Comment_123663275

either that of you have it wrong?

The MG5 EV can be charged to 80% in as little as 36 minutes using a 100kW or 150kW CCS rapid charger, according to EV Database

MojoMaker · 23-07-2025 04:27PM

The MG5 is universally loved by the taxi trade for it's huge cargo space - it would be the ideal vehicle for a St. Bernard.

I think you gave away the real reason when you said you can't put a big slobbery dog in the "commercial car". Wouldn't matter if it's an EV or a diesel, animals are not welcome in your wife's company car…period.

So the whole thing isn't an EV argument at all, just a huge bloody wind up. Sorry you had to sit through all this sh1te @weadick

Buddy Bubs · 23-07-2025 04:28PM

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The 85000 EV6 is hammering Lamborghinis and Ferraris in drag races.

Its not an everyday car at all.

They're actually going for more like 60k now because they couldn't sell them at 85. Maybe the new model one is back up at that price, not sure.

Ir3 · 23-07-2025 04:30PM

@SupaCat95 a couple of points if you don't mind… you say you dislike the EV but as others have pointed out the fundamental issue here is no home charger so lets say in a perfect scenario the company realised they should pay for the home charger and you then had one installed. Your wife then wakes to a fully charged car everyday and the company foots that bill every month so no more time wasted at fast chargers, you then have a car that's doing what it should and saving your family on BIK every month as it is currently doing. How would you then be viewing the car? The dog issue is not an EV issue after all, that's just the size of an MG and the fact you have a big dog which of course is not the companies problem. So would you then rather be in a Diesel that's costing your family more on BIK?

Grumpypants · 23-07-2025 04:31PM

Unless Charlie is a woolly mammoth, I'm sure he would fit in there. 😂

...Ghost... · 23-07-2025 04:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663161#Comment_123663161

Well, now that we know it's not the small MG3 Mild Hybrid and it is the large MG5 Estate, that changes things. You were so uninterested that you didn't know what car your Wife was given for work.

I'm well aware of the size of a St Bernard. My X was a vet nurse around the time everyone wanted a St B and before the SUV boom was in full swing. People brought their big dogs to the vet in hatch backs mostly, or on the back seat of their saloon. An MG5 is well large enough for a St B.

Details are changing to much from you now. I'm calling BS, and checking out.

Buddy Bubs · 23-07-2025 04:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663331#Comment_123663331

I had 2 labs regularly in boot or back seat (well covered) of Cupra Born.

Parcel shelf out, theyd look into the car or out back window, sometimes theyd lie down. 35kg dogs x 2, not st Bernard size but happy enough to jump in there

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 06:12PM

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True but it isnt, so it ain't. Wife would still prefer the diesel.

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 06:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663331#Comment_123663331

Well we have the car 6 weeks. While you were fascinated that I did not know all the ins and outs of my wifes 6 week old car, would it fascinate you to know my wife doesnt understand all the tricks of my profession …… and you know nobody cares.

...Ghost... · 23-07-2025 06:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663395#Comment_123663395

Also used to have 2 Labs in the boot of the Leaf every other day going to the beach. Not a bother and boot much smaller than an MG5.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663672#Comment_123663672

To be honest. I don't think you have a Wife, or an EV on the driveway….if you even have a house. You've told so many porkies here and made a number of U-turns when caught out. Good luck. No more time will be wasted on your fiction lad.

SupaCat95 · 23-07-2025 07:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663770#Comment_123663770

Well I dont care what you believe. Well we have a Kia and an MG in the drive way. The house is mine. Actually life is fairly great. keep that blood pressure under control.

...Ghost... · 23-07-2025 07:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123663805#Comment_123663805

Going by your recent posts elsewhere, which I won't bring in here, we both know you're lying through your teeth. Take care lad.

mrcheez · 23-07-2025 07:13PM

Just a question from a diesel driver here, though I'd like to move to electric eventually.

I was recently away for 5 months and I had left a full tank of petrol in my car prior to leaving, and when I got back not only was the battery still ok (surprising for a 2018!) but the petrol tank was still pretty full (obviously some had evaporated with the heat in May).

Would an EV survive such lengthy motionless periods, or do they have to be kept on a regular charge (or is driving it regularly also a requirement)?

Also regarding "filling the tank" so to speak.. say I'm heading to the shops at lunch and I only have 30 mins or so available. I'm used to getting into my car, and if the petrol is low I'll pop into a station and getting a full tank within a couple of minutes, then head to the shops and be back within the 30 mins.

How would such a situation work for an EV, assuming it was low on charge? Can you charge it up in a couple of mins too?

This is all assuming I don't have a home charger.

Thinking of moving to EV

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