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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,671 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Claiming it's business language doesn't ring true. He could say ten times less and that would make mathematical sense. You just have a tendency to explain away stupid **** that comes from his administration. Can't expect more from a guy who uses a roll of toilet paper per month though.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,935 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    but even using that analogy, one item must rise in price for the decrease of another item to be expressed in terms of over 100%.

    Trump is claiming he will reduce ALL American pharmacy drugs by over 1000%. Not possible.

    But god only knows what goes on in his remedial mind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,349 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Further to that: The temporary appointment she got from Trump as temporary D.A. for the district of New Jersey has been terminated and her assistant prosecutor voted in by a panel of mostly democrat-appointed Federal Judges.

    Apparently two Democrat senators, Corey Booker and Andy Kim, halted the appointment in congress. Habba was the D.A who charged Newark's mayor with trespass at a N.J. migrant holding centre after he was arrested during a row with border agents there. Habba also said she would pursue charges against politicians who violate Trump's executive orders.

    The peculiar thing about this alleged termination is that the Daily Mail is wording it as Habba no longer having an official role in the Trump Admin while claiming that Trump formally appointed her to the permanent position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,150 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No matter what brain dead drivel Trump comes out, whether economically illiterate, whether it is vile racism, whether it is outright corruption… we get the nit picking and the technicalities and the weasel words and the both sides false equivalences being trotted out… only ever for Trump.

    Once you start defending a rapist, all bets are off.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Really, if an item was previously 100 bucks and it now costs 10 bucks it now has a price 10 times lower than the previous price, in business or financial terms it is then said to be 10x lower, or the inverse of 10x higher (1000%) which is 1000% lower.

    I’m happy to translate any further trump posts if needed.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Give me the percentage reduction in your example!

    Then give us an example with a 1000% reduction.

    🙄

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,105 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Ann has 10 apples, she gives Barry 100% of her apples. Barry now has all 10 of Ann's apples.

    If Ann was to give Barry 150% of the number of apples she has, that means she has given Barry all of her apples and another 5 apples that she has plucked from the ether.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,671 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    In business terms, going from a hundred to ten is a 90% reduction in the overall price. Can you point to a report from any business that makes any such claim. You vaguely claiming that this is business lingo isn't proof of it being.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,423 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If an item was previously 100 bucks and it now costs 10 bucks, it has a price one-tenth of the previous price.

    You are counting the reduced price as being the 100%, and the current price as being 1000%. That is completely incorrect. The current, 100% value of the item, is the 100 bucks. If it is then reduced to 10 bucks, the price is 90% lower, not 1000% lower.

    I'd suggest you use a calculator, but I'd be afraid you'd set your microwave to run for 20 hours.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Jesus that’s some mental gymnastics to get there.
    so when he originally was talking of reducing drug prices by up to 90% did he mean 9%?



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,935 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    probably not a surprise to many to say that a lot of Americans do not understand what "per cent" means…..

    from chatgpt

    While most Americans are taught about percentages in school, many struggle to understand and apply them correctly in real-world situations, particularly with more complex calculations. Studies indicate a significant portion of the population has difficulty with percentages, especially those exceeding 100% or when dealing with fractions and decimals. 

    The ability to apply percentages in practical situations, like understanding financial statements, interpreting statistical data, or making informed consumer choices, is not consistently strong across the population. 

    10x is not a percentage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,013 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Genuinely embarrassed for you reading though this.

    You must already know you're wrong, and are flailing about trying to recover somehow, but it's painful to look at.

    I just logged onto Sketch engine, and using the English Web 2021 online corpus of just over 52 billion words, I searched for '1000% reduction' and got this:

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    Post edited by osarusan on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    As said, but I obviously can't name them, a big retailer in Ireland does their internal accounts this way. Increase widgets from €80 to €100 this month, its a 25% increase. Put them back to €80 next month and it's a 25% decrease (not the 20% that you and me would calculate).
    They are happy with the figure this gives them for cumulative/total percentage increases/decreases on a range over a period.

    If they did it the 'normal way' it would be 25% up, 20% down which would be a misleading +5% in the total column.

    (When they advertise the price decrease they do use 20% though, so both methods of calculation are stored)



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,132 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    If they did it the 'normal way' it would be 25% up, 20% down which would be a misleading +5% in the total column.

    Who in the name of god puts percentages in a total column.

    That big retailer is clearly managed by clowns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Oh dear. Seems someone's desire to distract from Trump being just phenomenally stupid is making them forget basic arithmetic.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I once had to spend almost an hour explaining to a fairly senior US colleague the difference between Percent and percentage point.

    e.g Going from 50% to 55% is a 10% improvement or a 5 percentage point improvement.

    They just couldn't wrap their head around it..I had to break out a pen and paper to explain it to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,218 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    I don't disagree with you. Normally we'd base such a percentage field on the overall sum of the prices, rather than doing a totaliser for the individual percentages themselves. They wanted both! Meh, I do what they ask, 'umble developer.
    But it was the first thing that came to mind when I saw DJTs spewings on the matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,671 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Yep I've encountered weird scenarios like that but it really doesn't make sense in this context.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Phenomenally stupid is somewhat inaccurate, one of the most successful businessmen in the world with an ability to run the biggest economy in the world, I get a kick out of all this smarter than thou and more righteous than thou stuff toward Trump and Americans, but the biggest kick I get is where Trump can say whatever he wants and y’all have to deal with it, he doesn’t have to answer to anyone and personally I find it refreshing in politics where the potus can say exactly what’s on his mind, ok he’s not the sharpest tool in the box sometimes but fcuk me it is entertaining.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,671 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Take it you're not willing to cite some references for your odd math. 😂



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,935 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    to be fair i can understand why a person from a county which deals in imperial measurements would have problems understanding a metric and decimal based math system.

    But the expressions made in this thread so far are just simply wrong, and not based in any logical mathematic language.

    If Trump had have said "we'll pay 10 times less, or 11 times less or 14 times less" you could argue that mathematically, but once he brought percentages into it it just becomes more gobbledygook



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I’m taking this 1000% cheaper lark as a method of “shouting” out some small benefit some people on drug schemes might benefit from in some small way in the future-and making it out to be something wonderful - so vague, no time frame, no specifics on what drugs - just bullsh1t basically - in his brain he’s probably claiming that people will save $1000s without him actually doing the calculations, so 1000% savings covers it all 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,203 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    So we're back to Trump being a "great business man" (this is a a lie) and "entertaining" (if you find such an appalling specimen of humanity entertaining that says more about you, I'm afraid) to distract from his stupidity (and your utter failure to comprehend primary school arithmetic)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,150 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    One of the most successful businessmen in the world - nope, look at his bankruptcies, look at his grifting and shilling for dollars online, and having to lie on his tax returns for which he is a convicted felon. The most openly corrupt US President in the modern era.

    He is running the biggest economy in the world into the ground with his economically insane policies, the only reason he hasn't succeeded is the Fed reserve chairman (who he wants to fire) and him chickening out when the bond markets gets spooked.

    You find it 'refreshing' that Trump can say whatever comes into his mind - let's not forget folks that includes racist hate, sexist trolling, laughing about victims of violence… If you find that entertaining and you get a kick out of it, well that is a position of absolute moral and political bankruptcy.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,105 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Age has caught up with him and he's struggling with primary school maths. What's your excuse?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I gave the explanation on how it is used, I get it that it is completely new to most on here but I tune in to business and finance commentary regularly and it’s not uncommon to hear people speak of 300% 400% drop in price, i get it that you don’t get it and that’s ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Bloody hell, I hoped Simpsons wouldn't have to predict this level of dumbing down. I'd say it's a 1000% loss of IQ for trumpers but everyone knows IQ doesn't go negative.

    And to defend it with "well he's a great businessman…"

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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,935 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,383 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    You didn't. You're desperately defending one of the worst people in the world who can't do the most basic sums. This guy would happily send you to a concentration camp for a dollar and your problem is people criticising him.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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