Cork GAA Discussion Thread

I said on the EchoLive Facebook page a few days ago that I couldn't see why Tipp were being written off when they had a few players on the team who had won All-Ireland's and Cork had none. I was laughed at and called a clown.

Systemically Cork hurling is in a bad place and has been for some time now.

No All Ireland club win since Newtown in 2003. That team was the back bone of the county all ireland winning teams of 04 and 05. Last time before that was Midleton in 1988 which also coincided with 2 All Ireland wins in the following years.

We had no Munster club win until last year since 09 when more or less that same Newtown team won it. Glanmire won Munster last year but flopped against Na Fianna in the all ireland final. And interestingly Glanmire had no player in the match day squad today.

The club game in the county is in a dire state when compared to the other main counties.

The minors had a drought from 2001 to 2017. The 2001 team contributed several players to the 04 & 05 group. Same for the 1995 and 1998 minor winning teams.

Our structures are in a poor state and somehow we expect to be winning senior all irelands and yet we are making no inroads in any club or underage competitions. The house is built on shaky foundations that way.

The same applies in football, it's a carbon copy story only even worse.

I’m no hurling expert but our puck outs have been poor all year. Tipp won a lot more of their own puck outs than we did.

That first goal for Tipp was such a shambles. The players just completely caved in after that. Look we'll all be back to go through it all again next year, but it goes to show that irrespective of history and what you won in the past, going two decades without an all Ireland and turning around a losing culture can be a very difficult thing to do once it takes a hold on a team and county.

That was the worst collapse in an all Ireland final since Limerick against Offaly in 1994. This is going to leave serious mental scars on Cork hurling i fear going forwards.

Alan Connolly was totally distracted by the low level niggle from his marker. They were down near me in the 1st half and Tipp fella kept pulling Connolly's hurley, his jersey etc and just general shithousery. Connolly couldn't handle it. They got into his head.

the sweeper definitely threw Cork… surprised they hadnt a plan to work around it… they did did it a few times as 1st half went on and i thought by the end of the 1st half they had made sweeper redundant…

robbie doyle , doyle had a fine game scored the same as the man he was marking and had the same amount of wides ,

yeah.. have to say i feel a little sorry for Cork this evening…. they were set up for the fall... raging favs.. ive seen it before in hurling in 1999 and 2010 and the Kerry footballers have been caught a few times in finals when they were favs… Tipp were in a great position going into todays game… just unfortunate for Cork… can see 4/5 retirements from that Cork setup and possibly a change of manager…

has shane kingstons form taken a nosedive that the management left it so late to bring him on…?

In my opinion that was far worse than the 5 minute final for Limerick in 94. If I recall correctly Limerick were sucker punched by a late goals and hadn’t time to come back.

Today we had a whole half of hurling in which we didn’t compete at all. Its easy to hurl on the couch and I don’t want to name names or kick lads while they’re down but it was as though they thought the game was over at half time because of their goal.

The warning signs of what Tipp were capable of were there for all to see. Their shooting was poor in the first half . It should have been obvious that they’d have been going for a strong start to the second half to atone for the first half mistakes but Cork couldn’t cope and lacked the on field leadership to pull themselves out of the fire.

darina allen !! eddie hobbs !! terrance the barber !! mary kingston !! microdisney !!

your boys took one hell of a beating today !!!!!

so picking a team up off the ground and winning their first national title in 20 years and a munster title is nothing but waffle ?

you dont fair enough , but for what he has done with this cork team he dose deserve it , i blame the hype train for putting so much pressure on the players , pressure got to alan connolly , hoggie and hayes today all great players but its almost impossible to shake off that type of hype , espically an amature team

Everyone writing off Tipp even all the so called pundits

But Tipp beat the all Ireland champions in Ennis

Drew with Limerick in Limerick one of the best teams of the last few years

Beat Kilkenny in Croker Park of course they had a chance and they took it

Cork were lured into compliancy and payed the price

Nobody will give you an AI. You have to take it. This cork team may get there yet- I hope so. When they win it I hope it’s with Pat Ryan in charge.