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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Because it's from their Instagram page 😂 I'd rather not drive more traffic to that propaganda piece the anti Irish times but you're free to do so. I noticed they chose against a DEI image for this particular hit piece.

    Just for the record I came across this while googling "Mairead McGuiness on immigration". Obviously the Irish times using some dodgy meta tags but whatever.

    I see incells being mentioned. I'm a family man with children and in a healthy relationship so these words don't trigger me. Anyone throwing the incel line out there should clarify their own love Life situation.

    Speaking of incel didn't that term become a topic of discussion recently for a show about a foreigner who was an incel but they decided to base the show on a white male boy instead. DEI eat your heart out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,146 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Geez,there's alot radicalised in your family,two siblings and your goodself,I wonder is it in your DNA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    so pbp Paul Murphy calls anybody who protests about an Ipas center in their area as a far right racist, but when one is proposed to be set 500 yards from his home he is out protesting against it., What a fucked up country we live in., How can you make sense of it all ? It is do as I say not do as I do..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    He knew full well he'd be called out on this when he objected but obviously swallowed his pride and put the safety of his family first. #WeStandWithPaulMurphy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Were you there? Did you witness the incident? Did you see what lead to the altercation?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Far right rubbish being spouted again I see. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story as they say.

    https://x.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1946224214966481092



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    I would love to know who actually votes for Paul Murphy ? How could anybody take any time out of their day to vote for this fool..



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I’d say there’s a good 6 or 7 posters on this thread that think he’s a genius. All those lads who think their parents and siblings are mad nazis, sure they must think the bould Paul is the bees knees. Probably think he’s not harsh enough, would like him to suggest a purge or two I’d imagine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭maik3n


    Just on your last point, are you talking about that nonsense claim that Badenoch and a few other racists on the right tried to push regarding Adolescence?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I am thinking about this:

    https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/residence-rights/inactive-citizens/index_en.htm

    As an EU citizen, you have the right to move to any EU country for a period of up to 3 months as long as you have a valid identity card or passport. If you want to settle in another EU country but you have no intention to take up any work or education there, you need to prove that you:

    • have sufficient resources for you and your family during the time you want to stay in your new country
    • have comprehensive health insurance

    Reporting your presence and registering your residence

    During the first 3 months of your stay in your new country, as an EU citizen, you cannot be required to apply for a residence document confirming your right to live there - although in some countries you may have to report your presence upon arrival.

    After 3 months in your new country, you may be required to register your residence with the relevant authority (often the town hall or local police station), and to be issued with a registration certificate.

    You will need a valid identity card or passport and:

    • proof of comprehensive health insurance
    • proof you can support yourself without needing social assistance benefits: resources may come from any source, including from a third person.

    I am trying to see the rules/laws about possibly removing non-working EU citizens. I can't find them so far.

    Jozef Puska did work here at first. He and his brother Marek are on DA for a "bad back", and have a 5-bedroom house paid for by the taxpayers.

    I want to see can we remove the likes of him?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,008 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Our state is just beyond a joke, it's no wonder so many illegal migrates are coming here because of **** like this

    Justice Minister Jim O’Callaghan has admitted it is “not possible” to “accurately” say how many migrants leave the State once being given deportation orders, because authorities still don’t do exit checks to confirm people have left.

    How the hell is this happening, it's beyond a joke at this stage. Surely from an effective security policy you want to track who enters and leaves your country. It's absolute madness and irresponsible.

    An illegal migrates is denied asylum, our government sends them a letter asking to leave, the illegal migrate just shrugs his shoulders and just moves to a different location in Ireland and our government has no idea of this.

    Come on is it that **** hard to track stuff like this, ffs

    We're really a laughing stock of the western world that we cannot defend our borders

    Post edited by Headshot on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,455 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Nothing better than a few anecdotes that favour your position.

    Iv never in my life been in anything like you experienced twice on a visit.

    Your a liar or in bad company.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,182 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The national asylum appeals tribunal has said that applications for asylum continued at a “unprecedented level” in 2024 with 22,548 pending applications at the end of the year – while they expect an overall caseload of 25,000 appeals of refusals for asylum applications for 2025. 

    The 2024 Annual Report from International Protection Appeals Tribunal (IPAT) said that the number of appeals to their office of decisions by the International Protection Office to refuse asylum to an applicant increased by 650% over a 24-month period.

    IPAT also said that processing times for all asylum appeals had now risen to 10 months, because of that increase in appeals reaching the Tribunal over the past 24 months, and because resources not being in place early enough to meet that subsequent demand.

    The report showed that just 28% of all the appeals were successful in 2024 – meaning that the refusal to grant asylum was upheld in 72% of cases that had been appealed.

    https://gript.ie/asylum-appeals-to-jump-to-25000-this-year-ipat-says/

    How many of that 72% is gone or are still here

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    It's been an interesting week or so as the various shades of left try to swamp the thread (flood the zone) with badly researched, ill thought-out, lazy and tired old tropes with lashings of insinuations - likely coming from some lefty 'Debating Centrists' online handbook/bible

    Insinuate they're incels (that'll take a few out as they don't want anyone thinking it may be true of them)

    Keep implying they're far-right (they hate that)

    If a hard-left nutter (that looks a bit challenged in the 'capacity dept') joins the thread and talks utter crap, don't engage or thank their posts - we must try to look clever at all times

    And so on…

    So what have we so far - Well a couple of notable points

    Robert the self-confessed thief and huge fan of current affairs, seems to think that Helen McEntee is the current minister of health - and that O'Gorman didn't have the integration brief - Unbelievable stuff! - If you're reading Rob, Helen is busy destroying the education of the children of Ireland and if she ever got the health dept, she'd be arrested for genocide in a few years time

    We also have the lad that has a bit of the diplomatic immunity on the site, telling us a while ago that in the UK, two MPs were murdered by the far-right…except one of the two, Sir David Amess, was stabbed 21 times by Ali Harbi Ali, a Islamic state fan…(cunningly disguised as far-righty I presume) - 'Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story' we were told recently

    Deffo time that 'diplomatic immunity' was revoked imo

    So, to my very left leaning friends here - You may think that you've stumbled across some white-supremacist, neo-nazi-hotbed thread but you haven't. You've seen in writing what the majority of Irish people are thinking

    IT poll - It's a sea of red lads…get over it

    IT poll 2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I was doing some digging on the Roma population in Ireland and it's estimated we've about 20k now. In comparison to an estimated 30k in Poland for example which would be much closer to where they came from after certain countries joined the EU.

    Poland has a population of 37M while we have a population of 5M and we're much further away from where they'd have travelled from. Our social system is far too generous and needs major reform. We need mass deportations for anyone not contributing. Sitting on welfare or claiming disability doesn't cut it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,736 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Yeah mostly on this thread .

    Thankfully few IRL

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,736 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    You know it's just wrong calling people " illegal migrates " ?

    The word is immigrant and not illegal unless they come here and stay without applying for asylum or residency .

    Do you not know this after all this time posting here or are you deliberately posting in an ignorant fashion ?

    And then to cap it off there is this ...

    "We're really a laughing stock of the western world that we cannot defend our boarders" .

    I don't know where you are from , but would have thought they might have taught you the difference between boarders and borders !

    Edit I see you have now changed it to the correct spelling ..my work is done ,lol !

    Post edited by Goldengirl on

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭InAtFullBack


    Always the "build back better" mantra with these ideologues. Trouble is, as any half rated builder will tell you is you cant build anything on foundations of shyte.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    AFAIK, the only way we can have exit checks is to leave the Common Travel Area? Is that correct?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭HattrickNZ


    I think it is more just cheaper. They dont have to staff the exit at the airport. And maybe in previous times it was not required. But it is required now.

    I came in recently and i dont even think they scan my irish passport for records. I think the officer just checks the passport but i could be wrong.

    #crazy but nothing surprises me. And there probablt isnt even a plan to change any of this!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    What’s the problem with an arrival / departure travel tax? Several EU countries have them and the UK has the APD, a per-person tax on all passengers flying from the country. It doesn’t need to be a huge charge but it would provide useful and accurate information to authorities. Imo, most citizens, tourists, or people with visas wouldn’t have a problem paying a few extra euro on the fare for a sea, air or land crossing.
    We have a very efficient customs & excise system that manages billions worth of goods and services in & out of the country. Why not use that expertise to develop a system to manage arrivals and departures?

    Edit: before anyone mentions civil liberties - passengers already provide plenty of personal data to carriers and it’s not a problem for gdpr. Also, new EU rules for ID cards for freedom of travel in member states was agreed last month.

    Post edited by mrslancaster on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    I'm a long term reader on this thread. All i can say now is I find this government baffling towards the safety and welfare of its own people. With regards to open borders, immigration and housing three major crisis situations among others its gone beyond a sick joke at this stage. My biggest fear is it'll only get worse but sure the horse has far from bolted at this stage.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/07/19/david-mcwilliams-without-a-rapidly-expanding-supply-of-houses-the-number-of-newcomers-means-prices-cant-stabilise-2/

    Article from McWilliams in this morning’s IT - concluding paragraph quote below pretty much sums up what’s been said here all along

    ”The data cannot be emoted away. Ireland has a capacity problem. This is not the fault of immigrants who are given visas, but without a rapidly expanding supply of houses, the number of newcomers means prices can’t stabilise. The most sensible policy would be to accelerate supply and decelerate demand, increase home building and decrease immigration.

    The numbers are stark. We can debate, moralise and criticise all we like but the honest conclusion must be that if we want stable, affordable house prices, an honest discussion on population, underpinned by data not emotion, is the only sensible way forward from here.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Over in my missus's one horse tourist town on the wild Atlantic way this week for hollyers.

    It's only hotel went for Ukrainians around 3 years ago but it's contract expired recently n is up for sale now. The main restaurant in the town closed last year, no tourists around not enough locals to sustain it.

    My favorite pub is up for lease but no bites, was talking to the owner n he had an ipas centre owner inquiring but no one else. He used to get a good twist out of weddings, funerals etc from the hotel.

    Thankfully a good few Airbnb tourists about but the government are trying to get rid of Airbnbs apparently.

    You'd wonder who do our politicians work for, itscertainly not the people in these towns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,103 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    I’m not sure how much more you expect Government to do for private businesses that can’t sustain themselves? Government still work for the people in the town (the specific town doesn’t matter, Government operates on a national level, local councils operate at local level). so if the business owners in the town make the choice to close because they can’t afford to continue operating at a loss, they are entitled to the same assistance from the State as anyone else, depending upon their particular circumstances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭enricoh


    These businesses were by and large able to sustain themselves before the government got rid of their hotel which kept them going. At the same time they increased charges on these businesses.

    What country do u live in Jack, does the government there hammer tourism by contracting hotels for refugees?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,736 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Just spent 10 days over West by the sea . Quiet place but hopping with the good weather and the music festival ,etc , tents ( tourists!) everywhere . This week still very busy, people on the beach every day and pubs full , hard to get a table for dinner everywhere but we managed booked ahead .

    Not seeing any lull and talking to hotel and pub owners it's very busy all season

    What country do you live in enricoh ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,103 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Government didn’t get rid of anyone’s hotel. The hotel’s owners made an agreement with Government to provide accommodation for Ukrainians in return for payment, and I suspect what happened is that the hotel owners didn’t have enough financial resources to sustain the business while waiting for payment from Government, and when the contract expired, the likelihood is that the owners are hoping for a quick sale while they’re still waiting to be paid -

    Hotels providing accommodation to Ukrainian refugees are threatening not to renew their contracts because of late payments from the State, with some owed up to €400,000.

    It is also understood the Government may consider putting time limits on the financial support and accommodation offered to Ukrainians, following a report that looked at how other EU countries were dealing with refugees.

    Government and opposition TDs are being inundated with complaints by private accommodation providers, who are furious with the State over a backlog of payments.

    Fewer than 20 staff in the Department of Integration are processing invoices to 700 providers, with a source confirming that, before Christmas, just four staff were dealing with payments to hotels, B&Bs, and nursing homes.

    A spokesperson for the department would not specify the total sum of money owed to private providers and how many were due payments.

    They said there is an “extraordinary volume” of payments to be made and the department “sincerely regrets” the backlog.

    There are no outstanding payments to providers offering accommodation to international protection applicants.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41059715.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Visiting a place during a festival and good weather is far from typical conditions and can in no way be a barometer on how well tourism is doing.

    Also, business owners get asked multiple times a day how things are going. They can offload all their problems on everyone who asks but if they are busy better just to.say 'great, never better' which makes the conversation much shorter.



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